Running NFL Preseason Thread

Mizzougrad96 · Feb 20, 2011

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I don't even see the Niners giving up the No. 7 pick for Kolb. Maybe a Hasselbeck type deal where they swap first-rounders and then throw in a mid-round pick would be a little more even.

No. 7 pick for Palmer? Never in a million years.

Then again, I didn't think the Broncos could get a first-rounder for Cutler so what the fuck do I know?

Herbert Anchovy · Feb 20, 2011

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http://www.cincyjungle.com/2011/2/7/1980631/new-carson-palmer-rumors

The head Varsity Baseball coach at Santa Margarita Catholic High School when we were there was also a football coach and teacher and he had Carson in class and on the football team. He knows him pretty well, personally, and lived with Carson's parents for a couple of weeks recently while he was visiting the area (he moved out of state a couple of years ago). My older brother, who I used to coach with, still coaches baseball at another local high school and ended up having a pre-season game against this old coach of ours. They talked for a couple of minutes and, knowing that my brother and I are huge Bengals fans, he told my brother a couple of things that Carson's parents told him were frustrating Carson to the point that he wanted out of Cincinnati. They were surprising in the fact that they weren't things that they we all conjectured (Chad, Bratkowski, etc), but not surprising knowing Mike Brown. Here they are:

1.) He said that to his knowledge, most or all NFL teams have personal chefs, kitchens, cafeterias, etc. Carson apparently has said that the Bengals don't have these, but rather have ONE Gatorade jug in the locker room. If they lose, the Gatorade jug/machine (I'm not sure which) is taken away.

2.) He said that to his knowledge, most or all NFL teams have large, extravagant Christmas parties for players, coaches, staff and their significant others at a large venue/banquet hall. Ownership would pay for most of the cost for this event, while the atendees would MAYBE be responsible for a few gifts. Apparently, the Bengals do not have a Christmas party, but rather a small gathering at the Stadium (he actually phrased it "under the stands")-- which is impersonal and the players must buy the gifts and all chip in to cover the cost. Furthermore, Carson has, for a number of years, hosted his own team Christmas party and paid for it on his on because the team cheaps out of doing a proper party and he felt the obligation to do so.

3.) He is offended by the people of Cincinnati vandalizing his home and the lack of support he's received in the last few seasons, especially because of how the structure of the team is set up for failure.

4.) Because of the above three things, he's receiving family pressure to come back to the West Coast.
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Mizzougrad96 · Feb 20, 2011

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All anyone needs to know about the Bengals is that they have a clause in every contract that prohibits players from every saying anything bad about the team.

This was several years ago, but I remember someone telling me that the Bengals had far fewer scouts than any other team in the NFL. I don't remember the exact number but it was pretty absurd. When they hired Lewis they were supposed to start changing that.

shockey · Feb 20, 2011

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Mizzougrad96 said:

All anyone needs to know about the Bengals is that they have a clause in every contract that prohibits players from every saying anything bad about the team.

This was several years ago, but I remember someone telling me that the Bengals had far fewer scouts than any other team in the NFL. I don't remember the exact number but it was pretty absurd. When they hired Lewis they were supposed to start changing that.
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that has been true for as long as i can remember; they've had the fewest college scout in the league, always using their assistant coaches to do most of the off-season work scouts usually do. most teams give their coaching staff a voice in scouting/rating/drafting but have scouts for a reason -- a balance of power between the personnel dept. and coaching staff.

these aren't called 'the bungles' for nothing...

Guy_Incognito · Feb 20, 2011

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Lee Jackson Beauregard said:

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2011/2/7/1980631/new-carson-palmer-rumors

1.) He said that to his knowledge, most or all NFL teams have personal chefs, kitchens, cafeterias, etc. Carson apparently has said that the Bengals don't have these, but rather have ONE Gatorade jug in the locker room. If they lose, the Gatorade jug/machine (I'm not sure which) is taken away.
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So they don't have any.

YGBFKM · Feb 20, 2011

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/20/mallett-will-be-asked-about-drug-use-at-combine/

Nice shot at our fine friends in Cincy at the end of this report.

Herbert Anchovy · Feb 20, 2011

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When T.J. Houshmandzadeh visited Seattle a few years ago during free agency, there was a story that he tried to buy a soda at team headquarters and started to put his money into the machine, and somebody asked him what the hell he was doing -- that nobody has to pay for that kind of stuff around there.

Sam Mills 51 · Feb 20, 2011

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Mizzougrad96 said:

All anyone needs to know about the Bengals is that they have a clause in every contract that prohibits players from every saying anything bad about the team.

This was several years ago, but I remember someone telling me that the Bengals had far fewer scouts than any other team in the NFL. I don't remember the exact number but it was pretty absurd. When they hired Lewis they were supposed to start changing that.
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A.K.A. the Carl Pickens Rule. As many people as crashed on Pickens for it, I didn't blame him at all.

Lee Jackson Beauregard said:

When T.J. Houshmandzadeh visited Seattle a few years ago during free agency, there was a story that he tried to buy a soda at team headquarters and started to put his money into the machine, and somebody asked him what the hell he was doing -- that nobody has to pay for that kind of stuff around there.
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Word I got was that things like gloves, hand towels attached to pants, undershirts, etc., are usually paid for by the franchises. Except in Cincinnati. Houshmanzadeh's behavior in Seattle shows that little, if anything, has changed.

Mizzougrad96 · Feb 21, 2011

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I remember one guy the Bengals had cut loose came to the team I used to cover and he would go on and on about how cheap the Bengals were. At the time, I assumed it was exagerrated.

I know I've told this story before, but I flew back from the owner's meetings a several years ago and Marvin Lewis was sitting next to me in coach. I said "Bengals wouldn't spring for first class?" and he just kind of laughed.

BTExpress · Feb 21, 2011

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It's strange as my life has gone on to observe how many people seem to root for the Snidely Whiplash character or the evicting landlord.
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I root for the evicting landlord if he is not receiving his rent payments or if the renters are doing something to jeopardize the value of his property.

The "little guy" isn't always in the right or deserving of compassion. Sometimes he's shiftless, lazy and always trying to take advantage of people and situations.

Mizzougrad96 · Feb 21, 2011

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Sanders is visiting the Jaguars today. I'm guessing he's scrambling to get a deal before he gets injured again or when the lockout begins in a couple weeks, whatever happens sooner.

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! · Feb 21, 2011

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BTExpress said:

It's strange as my life has gone on to observe how many people seem to root for the Snidely Whiplash character or the evicting landlord.
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I root for the evicting landlord if he is not receiving his rent payments or if the renters are doing something to jeopardize the value of his property.

The "little guy" isn't always in the right or deserving of compassion. Sometimes he's shiftless, lazy and always trying to take advantage of people and situations.
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Not mention rich "renters."
All these stories about the Bengals and their cheapness ... Any idea how much money Carson Palmer made? How about Houshmandzadeh?
I don't have a whole lot of sympathy over a millionare have to shell out a buck for a fucking Coke rather than getting it for free.
Or not having a Christmas party.

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