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Running 2015-2016 Hot Stove League Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Armchair_QB, Nov 2, 2015.

  1. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Dusty gets blamed for Wood and Prior with the Cubs, but the fact is Wood's arm was abused by his high school coach (he threw something like 220 pitches during a high school playoff doubleheader) and Prior's mechanics would have likely led to arm issues. But he did work the two of them hard in 2003, there's no doubt about that.

    Wood threw 122 or more pitches 13 times that season. Prior's pitch counts in his last nine games including the playoffs were 131, 129, 109, 124, 131, 133, 132, 115, 119.

    However, it seems he backed off on pitcher workloads during his time with the Reds:

    Baseball Prospectus | Painting the Black: The Evolution of Dusty Baker
     
  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    The funny thing is that while Prior was actually coming up, all you heard about were his perfect mechanics, and how they would prevent him from being injured. The opposite of Chris Sale, who has always been deemed an injury waiting to happen with his arms and legs flying everywhere, but keeps posting 180-200 inning seasons.

    2003 was a lifetime ago, in baseball years. There's no way that the organization that won't let Stephen Strasburg climb the stairs by himself is going to let Dusty Baker run him into the ground.

    The biggest problem with Baker on the Cubs was that he let the clubhouse run amok.

    I wonder if he still thinks that base runners are bad.
     
  3. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    Baker will probably do well for the Nats, but I'm still surprised there never seemed to be more mutual interest between Washington and Mattingly.
     
  4. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    It seemed as if Mattingly to the Marlins was a done deal even before he left the Dodgers.
     
  5. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Speaking of done deals:

    Nationals hire Dusty Baker as manager

    Loria has always liked to surround himself with former Yankees, even going back to his days when he owned the Expos.
     
  6. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    This is interesting:

    The Nationals decided on Black last Wednesday. Negotiations commenced. The first offer the Nationals made Black, a manager fresh off an eight-year stint with the San Diego Padres, would have guaranteed him $1.6 million for one season. It left Black “deeply offended,” according to one person familiar with the situation. In the end, the Lerners would not exceed an offer of two years with multiple team options. By Saturday, talks had crumbled. They didn’t get their man, because they insulted him.

    After Bud Black negotiations leave the Nationals shifting to Dusty Baker, the Lerner family has a fiasco on its hands
     
  7. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Wow. What were they thinking offering someone who is presumably a top managerial candidate one year?
     
  8. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    The ESPN.com lede is ... um ... noteworthy:

    Dusty Baker is the new manager of the Washington Nationals, meaning Major League Baseball avoids what would have been its first season since 1988 with zero black skippers.

    Nationals turn to veteran Baker for manager job

    They might as well have gone with, "After first trying to hire a white guy ..."
     
  9. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    The Dusty Baker hiring proves that racism had nothing to do with the lack of black managers. It was strictly that baseball executives are unimaginative, slow witted, dull and are willing to hire the idiot good ole boys they know rather than branch out and look for something new.
    And Baker is nothing if not unimaginative, slow witted and dull.

    The Nats are better off letting Werth manage.
     
  10. MTM

    MTM Well-Known Member

    MLB: You need to hire a black manager
    Nats: Does Bud Black count?
    MLB: No
    Nats: Hey Dusty
     
  11. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    I'd like to see Dave Roberts get a chance. He might be too nice a guy.
     
  12. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

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