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Rudy Giuliani on 9-11, five years after

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by hondo, Sep 11, 2006.

  1. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    Only 12?

    Rudy managed to convey a sense of leadership as Hell broke out around him. Meanwhile, the so-called President sat blankly and stuck around listening to My Pet Goat a little bit longer.
     
  2. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    So the rule now is that you can only be a hero if you're also a generally good guy to be around all the other time?
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    His first reaction was to head toward the building when he heard. That was courage. He wanted to stay and try to physically do more. By all accounts, they had to really convince him to leave and head to a different command post. The fire chief he he had been with died when the south tower collapsed, minutes after Giuliani left. Giuliani himself was covered with debris. In the hours and days afterward, Giuliani was ubiquitous. The guy didn't sleep. He was everywhere. A funeral in Queens. Then an hour later, he'd somehow be in City Hall with the fire chief at his side. He was personally the one who escorted foreign leaders through the site, because he didn't want people to ever minimize it or forget. He made little statements with his actions, which were really huge statements, such as when he rejected the money from the Saudis. He is a gifted speaker and without bullshitting people, he projected that someone competant was in charge. It's what people needed to hear. He was a comforting presence. Maybe you truly didn't feel that way at the time. I can tell you that the large majority of New Yorkers did. And if you were one of them at the time, I say, "Damn, people forget way too easily."
     
  4. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    He's a schmuck who had the balls to do what no other leader in this country (Bush included) did -- grab the bull by the horns and serve as a stern, calming influence in the days after 9/11. Bush's speech that night left a lot to be desired.
     
  5. Which is what makes him interesting, and also somebody whom I want nowhere near the Oval Office. Absent a cataclysm, he'll go back to being the same authoritarian schmuck he always was.
     
  6. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    I agree Rags. Good job. Sometimes not doing a lot but making sure others do what they're supposed to is enough. The great military leaders of World War II weren't always the ones at the front line, making every little decision. But that doesn't make them any less great.
     
  7. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    Fenian, between Giuliani and McCain, I'd rather have Giuliani with his finger on the red button.
     
  8. I just don't want his fingers on the FBI.
    ("Director Kerik is on line 3.")
     
  9. terrier

    terrier Well-Known Member

    I get the impression sometimes that Rudy believes 3,000 people gave their lives willingly so he could be God.
     
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