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Rooting for Cornell apparently brands you as a racist

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by tapintoamerica, Mar 25, 2010.

  1. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    No, that would be under restrictions on speech that is "likely to incite imminent lawless action."

    Harassment laws are aimed at the manner of your communication and not the content. You are allowed to communicate your ideas, but not in a way that disrupts other people's lives.

    The First Amendment protects his right to express the opinion that black people shouldn't be allowed in Wal-Mart.

    By getting on an intercom and anonymously pretending to be a Wal-Mart employee ordering them out of the store, he's crossed the line from offensive content to offensive action. The manner in which he is communicating (using Wal-Mart's intercom) is what makes it harassment, not the content of his speech, and thus the first amendment no longer protects him.

    As far as I know, the content of Noel Ignatiev's opinions remains highly offensive, but he's never expressed them in a harassing manner.
     
  2. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I could have sworn I saw some black players on Cornell in the first two rounds.
     
  3. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    Me, too.
     
  4. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

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  5. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    Here's an odd blast from the past:



    From: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10083/1045144-87.stm#ixzz0jJuntj9k
     
  6. This is pretty much the case. In fact, the owner of Wal-Mart itself could name the store "Blacks Go Home" or worse and the law couldn't touch him.

    It's complicated, because it's not absolute, but punishing speech for its content is what is really the concern of the amendment.

    Unless you're an abortion protester. Then John Paul Stevens will find a way to say it's OK to shut you down.
     
  7. clutchcargo

    clutchcargo Active Member

    Does watching "Hoosiers" make one racist?

    Are Gene Hackman, Dennis Hopper and Barbara Hershey racist in real life because they agreed to be in the movie?
     
  8. StaggerLee

    StaggerLee Well-Known Member

    Question is, would any Hollywood studio make that movie today?
     
  9. Blitz

    Blitz Active Member

    This is why newspapers are going ka-put.
    More people are interested in reading this seemingly more interesting fodder by a cyber-blogger.

    And besides, the 75 percent of newspapers often take the road less-cluttered and don't even broach these sorts of topics.
     
  10. NoOneLikesUs

    NoOneLikesUs Active Member

    http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2010/03/24/those-plucky-cornell-kids/

    Matt Taibbi weighed in on this a few days ago.
     
  11. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    What sort of damn topic?? People like underdogs in the NCAA tournament. You'd really waste ink on this tempest in a teapot?
     
  12. Blitz

    Blitz Active Member

    The topic of "Who ya' rootin' for in this one, and why?"
    And the sub-topic of "Wonder if there is a sub-topic here?"

    Stuff like that could be thought-provoking in small-to-midsize daily papers in Mississippi/Florida/Alabama, or Wisconsin/Illinois/Ohio or even out west.
    You could write 12-14 inches easily on that, if you include all the speculation that includes "what we really think of health care" or "is big government handing out reparations?"

    You just don't see that sort of fodder in daily newspaper columns, but I promise you it would be well-read if delivered with a factual/honest/sincere presentation - with the writer not taking any sides and rather throwing it out there for the reader to chew on.
    Bloggers are doing it all the time, some with worse panache than others, mind you.
     
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