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Romenesko and Poynter

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by beanpole, Nov 10, 2011.

  1. fishwrapper

    fishwrapper Active Member

    I love the job offer at the end of Jim's personal recollection.
     
  2. inthesuburbs

    inthesuburbs Member

    The main lessons seem to be:

    -- Accusing Romenesko of failing to attribute is like accusing Reader's Digest of stealing. The entire point of the enterprise was to digest, to summarize. Whether that was done with quote marks or not, with paraphrases or not, that's all it ever was. It can't be theft. It was linked to the original. It served to point us to the original.

    -- Poynter's editor was spooked by the possibility of having a negative story done by CJR.

    -- Poynter's editor (intentionally) missed the point of CJR's questions, which had more to do with Poynter's recent redesign (her redesign) making the posts longer, and making the links to the original work much harder to find. She threw Jim under the bus for her changes.

    -- It sure was convenient that he was leaving to start another site, though a different site (no more aggregation, but only his original work), and she was upset that he'd be taking some of her advertisers.

    -- Her note read like a parody of Poynterspeak. All ethical rules, no journalism experience.

    -- Poynter's claim that it didn't accuse him of plagiarism is bunk. She said he violated the rules, then quoted the rule against plagiarism.

    -- He'll be better off elsewhere.

    -- It took me two days to break my habit of going to Poynter about half a dozen times a day.
     
  3. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    An old SJ friend made his way into infamy (again) in the comments to that post:

    http://jimromenesko.com/2011/11/18/my-bizarre-departure-from-poynter/#comment-48
     
  4. SF_Express

    SF_Express Active Member

    Boy, there's a blast from the past. He commented on my (long unupdated) blog, too, several times. Professional grump, in the sense that there's a set of (his) rules, and there's never a gray area, and that's that.

    I guess it's a simple way to live life, though, completely black and white.
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    The only "problem" and potential source of confusion came when Poynter started having him link his tweets and such to Poynter instead of to the original article.

    It was annoying, and only designed to draw page views.

    But, that wasn't Romenesko's fault or doing. That's on Poynter.

    The way they've handled this is a disgrace.
     
  6. Clerk Typist

    Clerk Typist Guest

    Poynter = pointless.
     
  7. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I'm sure Poynter is pleased that he attributed and sourced everything with that post.
     
  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I just got the annual Poynter fund-raising solicitation in the mail today. Gee, so it can go toward such worthy causes as Julie Moos' salary? Sign me up!
     
  9. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    Sorry I'm not on that list. I'd tear it up, return it in the stamped, addressed envelope, with a note delineating those who needs to be removed from the Poynter payroll.
     
  10. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    LTL, I think I know what you should get Ben for Secret Santa!
     
  11. NickMordo

    NickMordo Active Member

  12. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    It's ironic that an organization that should be lauded and prove inspirational to journalists is almost always villified and scorned.

    They should buy some mirrors over at Poynter so some of the honchos could take a long look in them.
     
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