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Roger Ailes dead

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Steak Snabler, May 18, 2017.

  1. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

  2. I Should Coco

    I Should Coco Well-Known Member

    When Reagan finally kicked it, I and many others noted how "the second worst president in history" died today (the worst was in office at the time). But we begrudgingly admitted that Reagan's 1980s campaigns and presidency built the modern-day Republican Party.

    Well, Ailes was right there with Reagan in building the Republican base. As Mike Huckabee noted in an Associated Press story, "The GOP has long had a problem speaking to people beyond the boardroom and country club. Roger changed that." Another way of putting it: Ailes used propaganda to make working-class and poor whites vote against their economic interest.

    I despised Reagan and I loathed Roger Ailes, but you have to give the devils their due. Politically, they made the U.S. what it is today.
  3. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Wrong. Fox News is not "news."

    It's televised "conservative" masturbation.
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I don't think you and I have a disagreement here.

    I'm not looking for any articles lionizing him. I don't doubt that he was a vile sexual harasser and a horrible person.

    I don't even care if you leave out that he changed the landscape of politics and news when discussing his life/death.

    But, when folks like @Ace want to minimize his accomplishments, that's silly. And, pointing that out doesn't mean I'm defending the guy, or looking for a 1000 word essay on how he helped Nixon become president.
  5. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    I'm saying -- again -- it's much easier to be successful if you don't care about the consequences of your actions or how it affects other people.

    He was a cancer on America and turned a lot of decent people into fearful, paranoid, hate-spewing imbeciles.
  6. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Which was a bigger accomplishment? Creating CNN or FoxNews?
  7. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    I would love to compare your current-day posts with those from five years ago.
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  8. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    Are you sure they were decent to begin with? What kind of person just regurgitates political talking points without putting any thought into what they say?
  9. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    A Republican?:p

    (runs away)
  10. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    1. Yes.

    2. Are you familiar with Facebook?
  11. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    Fitting that you would assume people can't think for themselves.
  12. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    This little subtextual thing you think you've got going isn't working.
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