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Robinson can't sub for Bonds

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by creamora, Apr 14, 2007.

  1. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    That's why it's so important to compare records/players in relation to the era in which they played.

    Sure, Babe Ruth didn't have to play against players of color or fly to the West Coast or face rested relief specialists in the late innings, etc., etc., etc. But neither did anyone else in his time ... and yet he dominated his game, in his era, more than anyone in the history of North American sports.

    Regardless of what you think of Bonds (or Clemens, for that matter), those two have dominated this era of the game -- and are among the greatest players in baseball history, precisely because they have dominated their eras so thoroughly.
     
  2. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Actually, I think he is a park ranger in Ohio now.



    God Bless Youtube and the kids that make these videos. I could not find his great HOF speech that brings tears to me eyes everytime I see it.
     
  3. RokSki

    RokSki New Member

    Huh, cool.

    Sorry, Trouser. I should have worded that better. Just meant on the field. Sure he is in real life, too.

    I was young, too, when those teams were around. The only reason I have any appreciation for them is because I lived in the area and there was no escaping news about them.

    That defense was sick. Just amazing.
     
  4. Trouser_Buddah

    Trouser_Buddah Active Member

    I know, Rok, just giving you crap :)
     
  5. RokSki

    RokSki New Member

    Oh...a wise guy, eh...Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk!

    I should have known. You can't be too careful here sometimes. ;)
     
  6. Nola4520

    Nola4520 Member

  7. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Thank you very much.

    It's nice that Canton is so close to Pittsburgh... not that it really matters. Steeler fans are everywhere and would travel anywhere.

    That line "If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better beleive I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler."

    Love that line.
     
  8. RokSki

    RokSki New Member

    There aren't any better fans in the NFL, IMO.
     
  9. Double J

    Double J Active Member

    Exactly. Kinda hard to say the ball had already been juiced when the Babe, in 1920, hit more homers by himself (54) than the next three guys combined - George Sisler hit 19, Tilly Walker hit 17 and Happy Felsch hit 14. He also outhomered, IIRC, 14 of the other 15 major league teams during that season. And, as late as 1928, Ruth was still hitting twice as many (54) as his nearest competitor (Lou Gehrig had 27).

    I'm also not sure what this joker means when he talks about "others" hitting "50 a season" in the Babe's "wake." In the American League, where Ruth spent the vast majority of his career, it took 12 years before someone else (Jimmie Foxx) also hit 50. Another six years passed before Hank Greenberg joined the club and Foxx did it for the second and final time. That was it for the AL until Mickey Mantle in 1956.

    In the NL, Hack Wilson was the first one to reach 50, and it didn't happen until 1930. Only two other guys in the league managed to get 50 before the Babe died - Ralph Kiner and Johnny Mize both did it in 1947, one year before his death.

    The final tally - five "others," on a total of six occasions, during the Babe's lifetime. Only one of these "others" did it more than once, and six years passed between those two instances. Presto? Up your ass, Chafets.

    As we've seen, he's obviously better suited for fantasy writing on a scale not seen since the anal adventures of boots. To say once that Hank Aaron broke the Babe's record in 1973 might be a simple mistake (the record actually fell on April 8, 1974). To say it twice in the same article is inexcusable sloppiness. Hey, Zev, if you can't get even the most basic facts right, here's a tall, cool glass of STFU. Chug-a-lug.
     
  10. creamora

    creamora Member

    Rokski says, "How did Zev Chafets come to write this article? Isn't his area news?"

    Having no background as a sports journalists and jumping into the baseball arena seems to be somewhat common these days.

    How did Lance Williams come to write the Game of Shadows book? He had never written a sports related article in his career before he was assigned to the BALCO story. His claim to fame was covering the California cocaine trade, Oakland's Black Panther Party and the career of SF mayor Willie Brown.

    Lance is now considered by many sports journalists to be an expert regarding the world of baseball.
     
  11. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    Yeah, that's what I thought. Thanks. It seemed like a bizarre comparison.
     
  12. creamora

    creamora Member

    slappy4428 says, "Asshole has no pigment."

    That may apply to sports journalists as well, but then again maybe not.
     
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