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Robert Horry ... HOF???

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Situation, Dec 7, 2011.

  1. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    Reggie Miller did one thing amazingly well. Shoot free throws.

    He also was a damn good 3-point shooter, though not as good as people seem to remember.

    He's ranked 45th all-time in 3-point percentage, behind contemporary starters such as Steve Nash, B.J. Armstrong, Dana Barros, Dale Ellis, Jeff Hornacek, Mark Price, Allan Houston, Dell Curry, Glen Rice, Kenny Smith, Ray Allen and Dennis Scott.

    Beyond those two attributes? Miller didn't do much of squat.
     
  2. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    No. He's the 45th best of your lifetime. Percentages don't lie.
     
  3. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    This is just wrong.
     
  4. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    To my knowledge, Reggie Miller was the first athlete to pull off the "these nuts is huge!!!" hand gesture on network TV. That puts him in in my book.
     
  5. Petrie

    Petrie Guest

    Ray Allen's better. Not many, though, besides that.

    They lie a little.

    By this logic, Brian Cook is a better 3-point shooter. Is he more efficient (over a *much* smaller sample size)? Sure. But I guarantee you Brian Cook isn't making nearly 40 percent of his 3s if 1) he's putting up about five per game, 2) teams are focusing on stopping him, or 3) he's shooting under any sort of duress (throw up something at the end of the shot clock, etc.). Until Ray Allen, Reggie Miller took the most 3s in the most situations in the 30-plus years since the line was implemented, and he still made them at a .395 clip.

    Am I saying Reggie Miller is/should be a Hall of Famer? Not necessarily. But I figured he'd have more than a 6 percent chance of getting in.
     
  6. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    I don't think you can compare Reggie's 40% with Dana Barros' 40%. There is a big difference between volume shooting and being the Kapono spot up guy. Plus, many of his shots were when the line was over 24'. Reggie was a big-time scorer. But Allen has been the better shooter and all-around player.
     
  7. Blitz

    Blitz Active Member

    If Dana Barros ever shows up anywhere near the Hall of Fame, well, I'll take my family and we'll just move to Europe.
     
  8. Mark2010

    Mark2010 Active Member

    Robert Horry, Hall of Fame? Only if he buys a ticket like the rest of us.
     
  9. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    There's a huge difference in how Reggie Miller shot three-pointers and how, say, Mark Price shot three-pointers. Miller was a three-point shooter. Defenses guarded him for the three-point shot at all times. He never had space to operate. He constantly had to come off screens, catch and release off balance. Moreover, he was a specialist who had a central role. Unlike Dale Ellis, no defense ever forgot Reggie Miller was on the court and most put their best wing defender on him.

    Ray Allen is the best three-point shooter of our lifetimes. That goes for anyone who has ever posted on this board. But Reggie Miller is in the top five.

    Percentages lie horribly. I can't believe someone even made that argument.

    ...

    Also, regarding Robert Horry and the point of this thread ... wow. Next up, "Shaquille O'Neal: Hall of Fame?"
     
  10. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    And you still haven't explained how there's supposedly a "huge difference" between how Mark Price and Miller shot three pointers.

    You are aware that, in his prime, Price was a perennial all star and his team's leading scorer, right? He wasn't some Kapono/Kerr/Hodges off the bench role player. "No defense ever forgot" Price was on the court either. And, yes, he was a better three point shooter than Miller, and not just because the percentages say so. He wasn't as good overall as Miller, and didn't play nearly as long--largely due to being smaller, less athletic and injury prone--but he WAS a better three point shooter, period.
     
  11. Mark Price attempted 2,428 3-pointers out of 8,345 total field goals (29.1%). Miller attempted 6,237 3-pointers out of 17,499 (35.6%). If you run a statistical analysis, you'll see that the difference in attempts makes the .7% difference in 3-point percentages meaningless. (There's too great of a chance that, with more shots Price falls below Miller in percentage to call the sample meaningful.)
     
  12. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Steve Nash thinks Horry would be great for the enforcer hall of fame.
     
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