Richie Rodriguez, he doth protest too much.

Johnny Dangerously · Dec 8, 2006

(Found on a fan board of a rival team)

murciÃ©lago · Dec 8, 2006

Nice. I like it.

Johnny Dangerously · Dec 8, 2006

Jesus,

Stallings is on now and said he'd be interested in "helping" out Alabama in the short term but not coaching in the long term ... that was in response to Finebaum asking if he'd be interested in the job.

Columbo · Dec 8, 2006

Mizzougrad96 said:

A lot of very good reporters were wrong on this one... After reading Slaton's comments last nught it seemed like RR was gone...

I'm guessing he changed his mind or WVU came up with some more money...

We'll never know the truth...
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That being the case, the only way to judge a writer is whether he or she ended up correct.

Columbo · Dec 8, 2006

Johnny Dangerously said:

It must be nice to be "the South's leading opinion maker."

So far today, Finebaum's radio show has featured him continuing to rip the media, to poke fun at reporters for reporting what others told them (when Finebaum essentially does the same every day by reporting what others are reporting), to play "Coal Miner's Daughter" as the bumper out of commercial following a segment in which Finebaum: a) wondered where people shop in Morgantown, and if there's a Wal-Mart; b) snickered about the photo of Rita Rodriguez posted on his Web site yesterday that prompted lots of shots at her; c) implied West Virginia is an armpit of a state and d) generally abused West Virginia again and again.

I wonder: a) if Finebaum thinks Alabama is the zenith of cosmopolitan America, and b) if he's ever looked at the photo of himself on his Web site.

His outrage at how badly Alabama's search has gone and his temper flare-ups today show how emotionally invested in the Crimson Tide "the South's leading opinion maker" is. And yet, nobody plays both sides of the fence like Finebaum. It's amazing. He interviews people and agrees with them, then rips them as soon as they are off the show. He says "I don't want to be the first person to say Alabama is better off without him," but in the next breath he does so.

What a miserable prick of a human being. Punks like that get their ass beat at recess.
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What's his name, again? Hank Goldberg Jr.?

Flying Headbutt · Dec 8, 2006

This Finebaum guy, is he on all over the south? Or just on one station that has a really great signal, the way you can pick up WFAN out of NY all the way in Virginia, Ohio, and other far off places? If it helps bring any sanity back to you SEC writers, I don't think anyone outside of SEC land has ever heard of that guy, and he's completely irrelevant away from cotton fields. So, I guess you could say he's the biggest fish inside a Wal-Mart kiddie pool.

Oh, and I want to see all the writers who have been lied to or mislead with summary pieces later on that give the timeline of everything, with anonymous sources named and everything. Name names!!!!

Lester Bangs · Dec 8, 2006

Columbo said:

Mizzougrad96 said:

A lot of very good reporters were wrong on this one... After reading Slaton's comments last nught it seemed like RR was gone...

I'm guessing he changed his mind or WVU came up with some more money...

We'll never know the truth...
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That being the case, the only way to judge a writer is whether he or she ended up correct.
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Right when? Right when they wrote it or right when he changed his mind? It's all shades of gray.

Columbo · Dec 8, 2006

Lester Bangs said:

Columbo said:

Mizzougrad96 said:

A lot of very good reporters were wrong on this one... After reading Slaton's comments last nught it seemed like RR was gone...

I'm guessing he changed his mind or WVU came up with some more money...

We'll never know the truth...
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That being the case, the only way to judge a writer is whether he or she ended up correct.
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Right when? Right when they wrote it or right when he changed his mind? It's all shades of gray.
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Anyone can say ... But I WAS right, he changed his mind. Anyone.

If you blow the end result, that's all that matters.

Johnny Dangerously · Dec 8, 2006

Flying Headbutt said:

This Finebaum guy, is he on all over the south? Or just on one station that has a really great signal, the way you can pick up WFAN out of NY all the way in Virginia, Ohio, and other far off places? If it helps bring any sanity back to you SEC writers, I don't think anyone outside of SEC land has ever heard of that guy, and he's completely irrelevant away from cotton fields. So, I guess you could say he's the biggest fish inside a Wal-Mart kiddie pool.

Oh, and I want to see all the writers who have been lied to or mislead with summary pieces later on that give the timeline of everything, with anonymous sources named and everything. Name names!!!!
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I am two states away from Alabama. When I listen to Finebaum, it's on his Web site. I don't know if he's on a mega-watt station.

Del_B_Vista · Dec 8, 2006

Johnny Dangerously said:

Flying Headbutt said:

This Finebaum guy, is he on all over the south? Or just on one station that has a really great signal, the way you can pick up WFAN out of NY all the way in Virginia, Ohio, and other far off places? If it helps bring any sanity back to you SEC writers, I don't think anyone outside of SEC land has ever heard of that guy, and he's completely irrelevant away from cotton fields. So, I guess you could say he's the biggest fish inside a Wal-Mart kiddie pool.

Oh, and I want to see all the writers who have been lied to or mislead with summary pieces later on that give the timeline of everything, with anonymous sources named and everything. Name names!!!!
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I am two states away from Alabama. When I listen to Finebaum, it's on his Web site. I don't know if he's on a mega-watt station.
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His affiliate list, all of which are in Alabama:
http://www.finebaum.com/affiliates.html

FuerteJ · Dec 8, 2006

buckweaver said:

suburbia said:

murciÃ©lago said:

I wonder if this will affect how some papers handle the "unidentified source" issue now.
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Probably not, at least not on that beat. That team is so closely scrutinized that the pressure to be first has got to be excruciating, especially now with the internet (ESPN.com, CBSsportsline.com, etc) becoming such a powerful force. That means corners will continue to be cut on stuff like this.

I agree that it's better to be last and right than to be first and wrong. But with editors and reporters feeling the pressure to be a step ahead, we'll continue to see too many cases of shoot first and ask questions later.
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And again, I ask: Why is "getting a scoop" still held up like a worthy goal nowadays? Being first is less important than ever before, due to a 24-hour news cycle that renders a breaking story obsolete 12 hours later, either because the details are old news or the details have changed.

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As a reader -- as a fan without a dog in this fight -- I have no idea who "broke" the story that Richie Rod was staying at West Virginia.

And frankly, I don't care.

I don't care who tells me the story, as long as it's right. I don't care what you had to do to break the story, as long as it's right. I don't care if someone else reported it first, as long as you reported it best.

If you do that consistently, and you give me little reason to distrust your credibility, I'll read you 'til the day I die.

But I don't give a damn if you get it first. Once it's out there, I can find it anywhere and I won't remember who had it first. More to the point, I won't care. I just want to know if it's right.

The days of "scooping the competition" are long gone. I wish the "pressure to be first" would die a quick and painful death.
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There's just too much emphasis on "breaking news" now. It's not about breaking news. Well, it is, but it isn't. Sure, I'd love to be out first on a major story. It'd be nice. But I'd rather be the next day but 100 percent correct. The only thing that matters to me is that MY readers get the right information. Most of them aren't reading the Bham News, the MPR, the AJC, etc. They're reading my paper. When they see my story, it's first to them. If I lose credibility to them, I'm fucked. Make me second and correct instead of first and very wrong.

murciÃ©lago · Dec 8, 2006

For some reason, I've been thinking of a line from Star Wars.

Princess Leia: "This is some rescue. When you came in here, didn't you have a plan for getting out?"
Han Solo <nodding toward Mal Moore>: "He's the brains, sweetheart."

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