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Reggie Bush ain't looking too clean

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by The Big Ragu, Sep 14, 2006.

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  1. Pringle

    Pringle Active Member

    If you want to lobby for the rules to be changed, then lobby for that. But as long as they are in the books, you have to follow them. It's a shitty system. It's hypocritical as hell. But saying that "Wooden's team did it, too!" doesn't redeem Reggie Bush.
     
    Pringle, Sep 14, 2006
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  2. Grohl

    Grohl Guest

    Question for those who would know how these things work: The NCAA could punish USC in the future, of course, but can it do anything about USC's achievements while Bush was there? I'm guessing that if he's found to have been ineligible, all or most of USC's victories in 2004 -- depending on when this all began -- and all of the victories in 2005 could turn into losses. But it can't take away the '04 national championship, because there is no NCAA national championship. Would AP or the BCS do anything, or the Orange Bowl?
     
    Grohl, Sep 14, 2006
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  3. DyePack

    DyePack New Member

    I shudder to imagine what happens when COCKDIAN and his brofo get together to watch Michigan vs. OSU. That is, if either of them has a license and can reach another destination.
     
    DyePack, Sep 14, 2006
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  4. JimmyOlson

    JimmyOlson Member

    This must be said ... that was some damn fine reporting done by Cole and Robinson.
     
    JimmyOlson, Sep 14, 2006
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  5. NoOneLikesUs

    NoOneLikesUs Active Member

    Could USC sue Reggie Bush if it gets hit hard by the NCAA?
     
    NoOneLikesUs, Sep 14, 2006
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  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    It doesn't redeem Bush. He knew the rules. He knew he was breaking them. And I'm sure taking care of his family--which was living in poverty, while he saw everyone else around him making money off his talent--was more important to him than the rules. He made his choice.

    I also think a lot of people would fall on the Whtilock side of this that says, "Can you blame him?"

    The system is so shitty and so hypocritical and so rife with cheaters that its a giant farce. The things Bush was guilty of were: 1) being a big name, and 2) taking so much money that he left a long paper trail. He's hardly alone, though. Hang around any decent DI program and you see scummy-looking agents, with former players as their runners, working the corners like cockroaches. Most of the time they are doing it with a "wink wink" from the head coach. Pete Carroll not only knew what was going on, he endorsed it. Just about every coach does. Why would he be different?

    There is cheating and there is cheating. Who exactly did Reggie Bush cheat? He went out and performed fairly and cleanly every Saturday. He didn't cheat the game. The NCAA and its schools ring up millions of dollars off the talents of kids who aren't allowed to see a penny. Aren't they cheating those kids, more than a kid who tries to get his is cheating them?

    None of this "excuses" Bush. But I'd bet Bush could give a shit. He probably doesn't want to be excused for taking care of his family. He'd probably do the same things all over again, even if it does make him a rule breaker.

    If anything, Reggie Bush isn't a punk, like some young athletes. He never seemed to me to have an air of entitlement. He was just incredibly serious, in a pretty mature way. He took care of his business on the field, kept his nose clean off the field, and cultivated a clean cut image because he knew that was going to net him tons of endorsements.
     
    The Big Ragu, Sep 14, 2006
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  7. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    Wow, the details are tremendous.

    Now ... are they accurate?
     
    buckweaver, Sep 14, 2006
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  8. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    The only real way USC could sue Bush is if the NCAA forced it to return bowl and TV money for this... Otherwise, what financial damages could they show?
    Michigan didnt sue Chris Webber, et.al.....
     
    slappy4428, Sep 14, 2006
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  9. Billy Monday

    Billy Monday Member

    It looks like they provided excellent detail about the $100,000 that was previously reported by ESPN - the link is below from April.
    Props to them for getting that detail. Nice work. I'm sure SC will love the distraction.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2426429
     
    Billy Monday, Sep 14, 2006
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  10. Moland Spring

    Moland Spring Member

    By the way, if you're a site like Yahoo.com, and you want to be serious about being recognizable and important, hiring serious reporters is the way to do it. Who would've ever read Yahoosports before this?
     
    Moland Spring, Sep 15, 2006
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  11. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    That is a brilliant question. Assuming USC is hammered and has to forfeit all those games, does the BCS have the gonads to take away the Trojans' title? Or do they just ignore it and say it's not our job?
     
    da man, Sep 15, 2006
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  12. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    The BCS gurus would have them vacate the title, lest they have to explain why an 0-12 team is a national champion...
     
    slappy4428, Sep 15, 2006
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