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Rebounding statistics

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by bmm, Dec 23, 2009.

  1. crimsonace

    crimsonace Well-Known Member

    Every shot can only have one rebound, but MUST have one rebound.

    Every turnover IN THE FLOOR (or jump ball resulting in change of possession) can only have one steal.

    Some of those stats are ridiculously inflated.
     
  2. Rhody31

    Rhody31 Well-Known Member

    So when Player A has possession of the ball on say, a rebound, then gets tied up by Player B, Player A gets hit with a turnover and Player B gets hit with a steal? I disagree on the steal because Player B didn't steal the ball. He tied it up and the possession arrow changed possession; you wouldn't give Player B a steal if he tied Player A up and the arrow was in Player A's favor.
     
  3. apeman33

    apeman33 Well-Known Member

    I wish I had a rulebook nearby so I could clarify, but I always give Player B the steal. He forcred the turnover when he forced the held ball. Otherwise, why give Player A a turnover? He didn't lose the ball; someone else just gained possession of it simultaneously.
     
  4. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    That doesn't make sense. If the shot clock expires, there has been, by definition, no shot.
     
  5. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Correct deskslave. That would be a turnover -- shot-clock violation.
     
  6. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    A ball comes off the rim, player A leaps above a gaggle of opponents and swats/throws the ball back right to a teammate, who catches it near the top of the key.

    Who is credited with the rebound?
     
  7. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    Tim Tebow.
     
  8. rtse11

    rtse11 Well-Known Member

    Couldn't you have an air ball just before the shot clock violation? By rule the clock doesn't reset.
     
  9. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Guy shoots, shot clock goes off with ball in air, shot is air ball = turnover.
    Guy shoots, air ball, teammate catches it, shot clock goes off before he can shoot = missed shot, off. rebound, turnover.
     
  10. crimsonace

    crimsonace Well-Known Member

    Everything has to be accounted for, and a change of possession on the arrow is a turnover.

    In the scenario you describe, Player A gets a rebound and a turnover, Player B a steal. Player A clearly has possession for a rebound, but the change of possession must be accounted for. Any turnover in the floor (e.g., not a violation or out-of-bounds) has to have a steal.

    Another scenario ... Adams shoots, Allen and Brown tie each other up going for a rebound. Rebound goes to whichever player's team has the arrow.

    In the NBA, where they jump it up, the same rules hold. Rebound/turnover/steal go to the player whose team wins the tip.
     
  11. crimsonace

    crimsonace Well-Known Member

    According to the NCAA stats manual, if the person who does the swat/throw intentionally directed the ball to a teammate and was the most responsible for his team getting the rebound, then he gets the rebound.
     
  12. occasionally

    occasionally Member

    What I was referring to is a situation where a shot was taken and didn't hit the rim. The shot was before the buzzer but no one touches the ball until after the buzzer sounds. Obviously, if the shot is attempted after the buzzer goes off, then it's no shot/rebound and only a turnover.
     
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