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Reasonable expectations in college football

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Jake_Taylor, Dec 8, 2010.

  1. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Virginia Tech has been so consistent that it's almost taken for granted. Also, it doesn't help them that the conference has been down for the last few years.
     
  2. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    It's about expectations, not reality.
     
  3. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    True - but no one else has dominated it.

    I covered the 1992 season (2-8-1) when so many people wanted Beamer gone. I wrote a column the day after election day that said the one vote that counts is in, the AD says Frank Beamer is staying and explained why that was the proper cal. Voice mail was new then. Mine was full by 9 a.m. with people calling me a dumb mo-fo. And they were the nice calls.

    Beamer's first bowl came in 1993 and he hasn't missed since.
     
  4. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I'm glad Beamer has stayed at Tech. It's nice to see a guy tell Bama and others to fuck off and stay where he is.
     
  5. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    The Big 12 will get more interesting next year with it dropping a non-conference game (likely one of the three sisters of the poor) in exchange for another conference game. You look at how many teams had losing records in conference going to bowls and there is going to be a smaller margin for error.
    The loss of the non-con will probably impact bowl eligibility, which is why the Big 10 is probably sticking with four-nons and eight conference games.
     
  6. Frylock

    Frylock Member

    Oregon, Boise State and TCU need to be moved to the top tier.
    Also, Oregon State in the second tier.
     
  7. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Oregon is not expected to contend for national titles on a regular basis.

    Nobody expects Oregon State to contend on a regular basis.

    TCU and Boise State have had good success lately, but nobody is going to mistake either for a national power. If you haven't won a national title in the last 25 years are you really a national power? Auburn and Virginia Tech may be the only exceptions.
     
  8. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    UCLA is the co-flagship university of the most populous state in the country. It has more great football players within 40 miles of its campus than virtually every other team in the country.

    It has tough admission standards for everyday students, but can and will bend for athletes, and has a beautiful campus.

    UCLA's problem isn't high expectations. It should compete for a national title at least once every five years or so. UCLA's problem is terrible hires like Karl Dorrell and Rick Neuheisel.

    If it ever hires someone like Terry Donahue again, look out.
     
  9. Quakes

    Quakes Guest

    I know they've been down for a while, but how about Washington? There's a good deal of tradition there.
     
  10. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Washington is one of those schools that really doesn't have an excuse to suck. Facilities, location, academics, probably the best in the Pac 10 when you combine all three. I do find it interesting that next year the conference will have three teams that Rick Neuheisel ruined.
     
  11. ucacm

    ucacm Active Member

    OK, since I'm extremely bored and there's nothing interesting on TV:

    Top winning percentages since 1990 (not including the current season)

    1 Florida 0.79412 202 52 1 255
    2 Ohio State 0.77800 193 54 3 250
    3 Boise State 0.76136 134 42 0 176
    4 Nebraska 0.76087 192 60 1 253
    5 Florida State 0.76042 182 57 1 240
    6 Miami-Florida 0.75410 184 60 0 244
    7 Texas 0.74297 184 63 2 249
    8 Tennessee 0.73200 182 66 2 250
    9 Michigan 0.71341 174 69 3 246
    10 Virginia Tech 0.71169 176 71 1 248
    11 Penn State 0.70732 174 72 0 246
    12 Georgia 0.69592 170 74 1 245
    13 Oklahoma 0.69277 171 75 3 249
    14 Southern Cal 0.69076 170 75 4 249
    15 Auburn 0.66736 160 79 3 242
    16 Brigham Young 0.66667 167 83 2 252
    17 Utah 0.65690 157 82 0 239
    18 Kansas State 0.65226 158 84 1 243
    19 Oregon 0.64609 157 86 0 243
    20 Texas A&M 0.64228 157 87 2 246

    Top winning percentages from 1990-1999

    1 Marshall 0.89744 35 4 0 39
    2 Florida State 0.89024 109 13 1 123
    3 Nebraska 0.86800 108 16 1 125
    4 Florida 0.82000 102 22 1 125
    5 Tennessee 0.81301 99 22 2 123
    6 Penn State 0.78862 97 26 0 123
    7 Michigan 0.77459 93 26 3 122
    8 Miami-Florida 0.77311 92 27 0 119
    9 Texas A&M 0.76613 94 28 2 124
    10 Ohio State 0.75203 91 29 3 123
    11 Colorado 0.74167 87 29 4 120
    12 Kansas State 0.74153 87 30 1 118
    13 Notre Dame 0.70248 84 35 2 121
    14 Washington 0.69915 82 35 1 118
    15 Syracuse 0.69583 82 35 3 120
    16 Brigham Young 0.68504 86 39 2 127
    17 Alabama 0.67480 83 40 0 123
    18 North Carolina 0.66525 78 39 1 118
    19 Virginia Tech 0.66239 77 39 1 117
    20 Virginia 0.65966 78 40 1 119

    Top winning percentages since 2000 (not including this season)

    1 Boise State 0.86822 112 17 0 129
    2 Texas 0.85271 110 19 0 129
    3 Oklahoma 0.82090 110 24 0 134
    4 Ohio State 0.80315 102 25 0 127
    5 Southern Cal 0.79688 102 26 0 128
    6 Florida 0.76923 100 30 0 130
    7 Texas Christian 0.76613 95 29 0 124
    8 Louisiana State 0.76154 99 31 0 130
    9 Georgia 0.75969 98 31 0 129
    10 Virginia Tech 0.75573 99 32 0 131
    11 Miami-Florida 0.73600 92 33 0 125
    12 Utah 0.70492 86 36 0 122
    13 Oregon 0.69600 87 38 0 125
    14 Auburn 0.69291 88 39 0 127
    15 West Virginia 0.68800 86 39 0 125
    16 Boston College 0.68750 88 40 0 128
    17 Louisville 0.66935 83 41 0 124
    18 Wisconsin 0.66667 86 43 0 129
    19 Texas Tech 0.66406 85 43 0 128
    20 Nebraska 0.65625 84 44 0 128

    It's important to note that Marshall and Boise State spent a good part of the 90s as a member of I-AA.

    I got all of these stats from:

    http://football.stassen.com/records/compute-request.html
     
  12. Frylock

    Frylock Member

    Mizzou, the conditions were to occasionally contend for a BCS Bowl and sometimes win 8-9 games.
    Oregon State has been to the Fiesta Bowl, contended for the Rose Bowl in 2008 and 09 and has had 8-10 win seasons several times in the past decade.
    I would say they fit.
    Oregon might be a little stretch but with this national championship berth I think they're there.
    Win-wise Boise State is there easily.
     
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