Ralph Nader officially announces

Who is Ron Paul?

 

I have Webby on line 1 for you, sir.

 

Hard to argue with that, java.

Nader used to be a crusader for consumers. Now he's a crusader for Ralph Nader.

Sad, really.

 

Please... send me your stash... now, if not sooner

 

Hey, this is great news for McCain.

He's now not the oldest candidate seeking the presidency. Nader, 73, is.

 

ralph nader, still, still, STILL...is a halliburton stockholder.

as he was in 2000.

as he was when the U.S. invaded iraq in 2003.

ralph- go directly to hell.

 

Okay, look, here's the deal. If you're a Democrat, you don't have a birthright to every liberal vote cast. If you're a Republican, you don't have a birthright to every conservative vote cast. We opine and fret and pine for strong third parties, but then when someone actually gets votes, like Nader, then zomg he's ruining the election for Gore!!!!1. What if the Constitution Party throws up a name with a smidgen of reconisability, like Alan Keyes? Or if Paul goes Libertarian? Or if Bloomberg runs as an indy?

If Nader costs Obama or Hillary the election, they deserve it for letting him get the votes in the first place.

 

At this point, the only people who are going to vote for Nader are people who wouldn't vote for the establishment candidates anyway. The type of people who vote for Lyndon LaRouche or the Socialist Party candidate or whoever. Those people have been around in every election, so you can't argue that they're difference makers. No one is going to be under the delusion this time that a vote for Nader is somehow a vote for radical change. Hell, even in 2000 he was just trying to get 5 percent to qualify for funding. That's why he got so many votes. He won't come anywhere close this time.

Yeah, he might siphon off .3 percent of the vote or whatever, but there'll be more than a few GOP voters who vote for the Libertarian candidate. Probably more than .3 percent, in fact. If Obama loses by a fraction of a percent, it'll be his own fault, not Ralph Nader's.

 

Of course, to use his own logic on him, if he can't do better than the .4 percent of the vote he got last time, perhaps he should give up and try something else.

I do agree he won't affect the race in any meaningful way, though.

 

Totally agreed. Everyone says it would be great to have a third choice, but they freak if they think it could be damaging to their guy.

Let Nader do his thing. If he has any effect on the election at all it means the Democrats have crapped all over themselves.

 

Does Nader become irrelevant with the split in this country between those who support Hilary/Obama and those who support McCain? Will anyone truly vote for him?