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Quantum of Solace/Casino Royale

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Killick, Oct 26, 2008.

  1. novelist_wannabe

    novelist_wannabe Well-Known Member

    I was 12 when I saw The Man With the Golden Gun, which at that time was a hair away from qualifying as soft-core porn. All I remembered was the tits until I saw it again as an alleged adult years later.

    Quantum of Solace -- Mizzou's right. Not near as good as Casino. Still worth the price of admission.

    I hadn't thought about the diminished gadget role, but the scenes with Q are noticably absent, perhaps part of the effort toward more realism. Funny, I watched Get Smart on DVD the night before seeing Quantum, and looking back now, the gadget comparison is kind of funny. "I've got a geiger counter in my wristwatch. You don't have one of these? Hmm."

    At any rate, the Bond series now seems set up to develop the character from the blunt instrument (I love the way Judi Dench enunciates that phrase) to someone in charge of all of his faculties. Got to get him back into an Aston Martin though. The Fords suck.
     
  2. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    Good list. I'd go with From Russia With Love, On Her Majesties Secret Service (totally underrated and maybe the best story, though Lazenby was not a good Bond), Casino Royale and Goldfinger.

    Thunderball would be there over Goldfinger if it didn't have the waaaay overlong underwater scenes. It's like they had this new technology and wanted to flaunt it for all it was worth. The red-headed chick in that movie was the best female baddie by miles in a Bond movie.

    Spy Who Loved Me is unquestionably the best of the Moore movies, though I have a soft spot for A View To A Kill because it was the first I saw in the theatre. My mom wouldn't let me see Octopussy.

    As for the Man With The Golden Gun? I could rip it to shreds, but one picture says a thousand words ...

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    I give you ... the flipped-over AMC Pacer stunt! Maybe the cheesiest all-time moment in a Bond canon full of them. Don't forget ... Bond is with that hillbilly sheriff from Live And Let Die when this scene takes place because the hillbilly sheriff happens to be in ... Bangkok?

    Worst ... movie ... ever. Though it has one saving grace ...

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    SCARAMANGA!
     
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  3. westcoastvol

    westcoastvol Active Member

    I'm a bit of a Bond nerd, and I was somewhat disappointed.

    QOS doesn't stand on its own nearly as well as all the other movies do. I wish QOS would've started with something from Casino Royale. There were a few "ohhhhhh" moments for me that I had to dig deep for in the memory banks.

    Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the Daniel Craig iteration of James Bond. However, I do worry that the series is taking a bit of a turn toward Jason Bourne. A few trademarks were missing, although the homage to Goldfinger was a nice touch.
     
  4. MacDaddy

    MacDaddy Active Member

    That's a Hornet, not a Pacer.
     
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  5. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Craig is signed for 3 more Bond movies, the next one will conclude the Casino Royal/Quantum of Solace trilogy. Love Judi Dench in these movies. She gets more screen time in a single picture, deservedly, than Bernard Lee got in any 5.

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  6. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    Holy shit..... finally watched this tripe.

    What was fresh and vital in Casino Royale... wow, Daniel Craig was worse than Timothy Dalton was in any of his efforts.

    This sullen, no-frills Bond.... I should have seen its obvious short lifespan even while watching the eminently enjoyable change-of-pace CR.

    This is one of ...what.... three Bond films that should have gone straight to video.

    And it's not just Craig.

    Everything was so ham-handedly presented and cliche. Without a single memorable character. And, sorry, snobs, the gadgets are a huge part of the franchise. Like Dennis Johnson on the 80s Celtics... Horace Grant on the 90s Bulls. ... Robert Horry on every other NBA championship team.

    Even the awful Max Zorin was a fraction memorable.

    The villain should have kept with playing people with Shut-in Syndrome.
     
  7. mediaguy

    mediaguy Well-Known Member

    Been a Bond fan since I was a kid, and funny, in that Octopussy was on TV last night. Just struck by how ridiculously old Roger Moore was at end of his run -- he was 59 when View to a Kill came out. It's like watching Daniel Craig's dad hit on the women James Bond is supposed to be with. Just silly.

    I've like the two most recent Bonds as much as I can remember -- the Brosnans had horrible dialogue, and dear Lord, an invisible car? I thought Casino was a bit long and Quantum a bit short, but like the idea of introducing a new kind of SPECTRE to be carried along in the series. For about 15 years there, all the writers did was change the nationality of the bad guy and make him a little less quirky.

    If I can ask for something from Craig's third Bond movie, it'd be that they let him have a tiny amount of fun. I don't need John Cleese dropping by, but give him a smartass comment or two ...
     
  8. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    I like Craig and the plots -- not as hokey as the rest. But yeah, he needs to lighten up on occasion
     
  9. GB-Hack

    GB-Hack Active Member

    Wasn't that part of the reset, though, that we get to see his personality develop as he becomes a more experienced Double-O agent?
     
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