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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    I watched very little of the early debates, but I want to make an informed decision in two weeks at the primary. So I watched the last 90 minutes last night. Went in with an open mind, re: Bloomberg, but came away -- um -- unimpressed, underwhelmed, appalled? He sucked.

    Warren may have my vote at this point. I could get behind a Warren-Buttigieg ticket, but I doubt that will happen. I'd vote for a pile of steaming shit over Trump, so none of it really matters, but Warren impressed the hell out of me.
     
  2. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    It likely will be Warren or Amy and Pete thereby capturing plenty of demos including the pronouns.

    What it also likely will come down to is whether Bernie Bros. will act even more petulant and not vote out of spite, again.
     
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  3. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    As it stands now (could change!) Sanders will be the presumptive nominee after Super Tuesday.
     
  4. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Yes just a rando chick but is this the hard battle line, #OnlyBernie?

    "Give us Bernie or we give you 4 more years of Trump!"

     
  5. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

  6. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Some genius who I don't know on Twitter posted a screenshot of Bloomberg and Sanders at the debate and said "E 72nd St. vs. W. 72nd St." Brilliant and I will steal it in conversation. Bernie's supporters on Twitter are not all bad, but the ones that are are despicable.
     
  7. lakefront

    lakefront Well-Known Member

    I wish that Bloomberg had concentrated on the ads only. He could be putting out actual fact ads.
    Showing the part of the Mueller report that states they did not look at collusion.
    The statement that they did not find him "innocent" of obstruction.
    Lots and lots of tidbits from the investigation that seemed to get overlooked once barr took over. Also the fact that they really could not make a decision on trump and the kid because they did not cooperate. Ton of stuff that would make great ads.
    The charity issue could be exposed more.
    All in his attacks on norms and traditions of government.
    Simple straight forward facts from Ukraine.
    Many, many more topics that could be covered. Endless in fact.
    Just use ads to get out simple straight forward facts.
    I find that fox watchers really do not know half of what the guy is doing. They are still saying there was no collusion!!
    You have to battle trump with his own weapon of repetitive talking points...email, burisma, socialist. Hit back with a barrage of the facts simply presented.
    That's what he should have done instead of running.
    His inability to hire and keep staff. Remember "only the best people" we heard over and over.
    The fucking golf and what he is charging for the secret service. All the days spent there.
    Illegals that work for him.
    I could go on all day. Imagine all of these short simple straight forward ads
     
  8. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Bloomberg unfortunately is as big a narcissist as Trump, albeit a way smarter one.
     
  9. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    and not venal
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Bloomberg isn't nearly the narcissist Trump is. I don't think anyone on earth is even within 10 zip codes of Trump on the narcissim scale.

    Trump is a bullshit artist and con man whose sense of his own importance is divorced from all reality. He lies about his accomplishments. He lies about his wealth. He craves attention, needs adulation. Etc. Etc.

    With Bloomberg, any sense of his own importance is obviously much more rooted in reality. He was visionary enough to anticipate a market for business information before any else, and he was able to build a company from scratch to meet that need, which earns tens of billions of dollars a year today.

    Bloomberg lives in a bubble (that upper east side echo chamber you mentioned). And he's not used to being challenged the way he was last night. That isn't narcissism. He also does philanthropic work that donates hundreds of millions of dollars a year to various causes. Whatever his motivations, that is contrary to a narcisisstic personality (like Trump's), which is incapable of having empathy for others.

    I don't think Bloomberg needs adulation and attention the way Trump does. He's just a guy who has accomplished a lot, and as a result, he's not used to being pushed back at. That's not the same as being a narcissist.
     
  11. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    We just came from Johns Hopkins University Hospital last week where Bloomberg donated to build an entire Children's Hospital Center, Donated to Create the Bloomberg School of Public Health at Johns Hopkins and donated to create the largest building at Hopkins University for the Bloomberg Center for Physics and Astronomy. And that's just at Johns Hopkins University. He has donated more money for philanthropic causes than Trump and his family have ever made, lost, stolen and borrowed.

    In fact, Bloomberg has done more to improve the health of average Americans by his donations than Warren and Sanders have done as United States Senators.
     
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  12. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    “The worst of times often create the
    best opportunities to make good deals.”

    ― “Trump: The Art of the Deal”

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