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Potty Training vs. Cover 2: The SJ parenting wars

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Cadet, Jul 19, 2008.

  1. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    Don't let them beat you vertically. Keep everything in front of you. Let them take what they can in the flats or out of the backfield.

    ;D
     
  2. Highway 101

    Highway 101 Active Member

    The world is a better place because I do NOT have children — that I know of.

    I'm still to young and dumb.

    A couple of co-workers in the newsroom give me hope for the future. One had his first daughter at the age of 47, and another two years later because "(the first) will need somebody to be around when I'm gone or when I'm broke or both."

    Somebody else in the newsroom is 47 and has a 5-year-old son.

    I've got time. And the world is without one screwed-up 3-7 year old.

    So "Yeah Me" for being smart/lucky in my 20s. And "Yeah Parents because I'm sure you're doing a better job of raising children than I ever would have in the last decade."
     
  3. Appgrad05

    Appgrad05 Active Member

    In the last six months, I've dived head-first into parenting.

    Met a woman more than a year ago, became friends and, eventually, we decided to start dating. That came with one "small" caveat - the approval of her two sons, eight and 12.

    And it worked. They love me, and I love them. I made the conscious decision to not be their father, because he was in their life. I just wanted to be the guy that wasn't giving them grief - I told the oldest how to deal with a bully in a way his mother would never have approved of, and I played video games all day with the youngest, when he had to come home from school early because of the dreaded accident (yeah, that one).

    But things are about to change in a big way. I moved 700 miles away at the beginning of June, and they are joining me in two weeks. They'll see their dad during the holidays, on spring break and summer vacation. But for eight months a year, I am the major father figure in their life. It's scary and daunting. I am sure I am going to make a 100 mistakes, and just try to tell myself I'll do a 101 things right to even it out.

    I still want to be the guy who doesn't give them grief, as impossible as that might be. And, as they become teenagers, I suspect a large majority of my job is to protect them from their mother (who is a great mother, but is very protective of her two little boys).

    I know cover two like the back of my hand. I do not know what I'll do the first time the oldest comes home drunk.
     
  4. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    If he comes home drunk after driving, kick his ass from one end to the other, take his keys and cut up his license and tell him he can drive again when he's fully self supportive. Nothing less is acceptable.
    If he comes home drunk and somehow did it responsibily, get some towels and a bucket ready and give him some good-natured shit in the a.m. Don't let him wallow in his pity. Make his ass be productive, hangover and all.
    Make sure they know they can call you at ANY time for a ride. They are not to drive after drinking or get in a car with anyone who has been drinking.

    Also good that you are not trying to be their dad. If he's in their life, support that fully. Be a good male role model. That's important, too.

    Mom's are protective. Mine have a very protective mom and I remind them all the time that a mother who doesn't give a shit is not a better alternative. Appreciate her efforts and be careful out there.
     
  5. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Thanks! Now I know.
     
  6. Dickens Cider

    Dickens Cider New Member

    And knowing is half the battle.

    Also, Moddy is a very smart man.
     
  7. kleeda

    kleeda Active Member

    Lots of people without kids have good theories. But they're pretty much theories until you get the 4-year-old stripping naked in less than two seconds and headed for the carp pond at Disney's Animal Kingdom like he's LaDainian Tomlinson just getting behind the safety. Don't ask:)
     
  8. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Hell, kleeda, I would have let him go there! Did he make it in?
    My problem when mine were little sometimes was not laughing as I scolded them. My nephew had a similar experience recently. His 3-year-old told him to "get the fuck out" of her room. He said he knew he had to lay down the law but he had to compose himself first. And talk to his wife or the pre-school. She surely didn't learn that from him.
     
  9. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    Bang on.

    I have three sons. The eldest is 22 and the twins (fraternal) are 20.

    They are (and I'm sure HC will attest to this) fine young men and a credit to the under 25 Club.

    Sometimes, at the end of the day though, you wonder how much control you have over how your kids turn out.

    One thing (and Moddy would probably agree on this) is that we had "rules & regs" which we applied equally to all three.

    That said, because of the different personalities involved we also had to be flexiible. One of the twins was (and is) a little different than his two brothers. We gave him a little extra slack but a very short leash.

    The only thing their mother and I were fairly fierce about when they were infants/toddlers was establishing a schedule and sticking to it.

    Dinner at 6:00, bath at 7:00, story time at 7:30, lights out at 8:00.

    I believe yoiunger children like the security that a schedule provides but that's just me.

    Funny thing about parenting advice: we never sought it nor did either of our parents provide it unless asked.

    I do remember however a moment of sheer terror when we brought the twins home from the hospital. The two of them and an 18 month old.

    Still freaks me out. ;)
     
  10. kleeda

    kleeda Active Member

    Hell yeah, he made it. He runs like the wind -- well, a stumbling wind -- and I run like the 300-pound 42-year-old I am. But I was closing fast at the finish until the left calf tightened up like I'd been shot with a spear gun.

    Disney folks said it was far from the first time. But buck naked, I asked? "Yeah, that one's new," said the head of security as he laughed and patted me on the back.

    I kept telling the kid not to do that again. He just kept giggling uncontrollably.

    Luckily my kids haven't dropped a cuss word yet. OK, the 6-year-old said the P-word once but we were hoping he was talking about a cat and let it go.

    And JR, same schedule for ours. Variance from the routine makes them cracky as hell.
     
  11. Appgrad05

    Appgrad05 Active Member

    JR,

    The owner of the seafood restaurant that was my first job had, when I left for college, four children. The oldest (boy) was three, the next (boy) was 18 months and newborn twin girls. Suffice to say, they were old-school catholics.
     
  12. shockey

    shockey Active Member

    that never changes, which means the kids' parents are doing a swell job. kids tend to push their own parents further, especially at home, 'cause that's where they're most comfy.

    but you can judge how well a kid is being raise, i contend, by how they respond to folks other than their parents. our boys are only an occasional handful to us.

    but to their grandparents, aunts and uncles, coaches, teachers and any other adults, they're angelic. polite and well-behaved. same way in school never, ever have had a behavioral prob with any teachers, etc.

    kids have to have an outlet. let that be at home, within reason, of course. as long as they behave when out in the real world, or with babysitters, etc., the parents have done a swell job, imo. that's a darn good barometer.
     
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