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Posnanski > Phillips

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by JackReacher, May 20, 2009.

  1. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    Steve Phillips rips Carlos Beltran.
    Posnanski rips Phillips.

    Therefore, Posnanski > Phillips. By a mile.

    Interesting read filled with a bunch of Beltran's stats I was unaware of.

  2. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Steve Phillips never has anything good to say about anyone or anything connected with the Mets...kind of like BYH.
    In fact,. BYH might be Steve Phillips ... or maybe his illegitimate son.
  3. fishwrapper

    fishwrapper Active Member

    I'll just throw this out there in these here times...

    Pedroia: 1.75 million
    Youkilis: 6.25 million
    Jones: 10 million
    18 million

    19.24 millilon
  4. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    I think Posnanski's argument was on talent, not paycheck.

    Interesting numbers, though.
  5. topsheep

    topsheep Member

    This was funny ...

    In response to ...

  6. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    Beltran is as reluctant a superstar as a megamarket has seen.

    His biggest problem is that he doesn't seem to even like playing baseball.
  7. chilidog75

    chilidog75 Member

    That hasn't seemed to stop him from being very good at it.
  8. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    I think he likes playing baseball. He doesn't like playing in the spotlight, which is not a good thing when you play in New York and make roughly $20 mill a year
  9. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    His moping joylessness has prevented him from being a truly great player.

    He goes about his business with all the zeal of an elementary school custodian, when he should be thanking his lucky luckies that he banked obscene sums of money on the basis of one good postseason (on a team that had a good surrounding cast).

    Name one time you've ever seen this guy smile or even really show that he has a pulse. No can do. He's the avatar of the Mets since 2005.
  10. fishwrapper

    fishwrapper Active Member

    I'm aware of the argument. And, Beltran is a very good player.
    But the stance is a little hollow when you could have all three mentioned in retort for less than one Beltran.
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 1, 2015
  11. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Misleading comparison. Two guys who had arbitration years bought out and one 37-year-old superstar who took $10 million in the option year of an undervalued contract and who has since extended for three more years at $14 million each.

    The Royals gave Beltran $9 million in his final arbitration year -- 2004. There isn't a center fielder close to Beltran.

    Phillips is an idiot.

    Or just maybe Carlos is quiet and unemotional on the field.
  12. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Pedroia is a third-year player with absolutely no leverage. He takes what the Red Sox give him and says thank you.
    Youkilis, who didn't make it to the bigs until he was 25, did not reach free agency when he agreed to a below market value contract with the Red Sox.

    In other words... apples and oranges.
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