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Poker bad beats RUNNING THREAD

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by MC Sports Guy, Jan 17, 2007.

  1. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but I'm really tired of getting beat by one-outers. A while back I played KK vs. JJ, hit a K on the flop and lost to running J J for quads. That one and tonight were not just bad beats but completely ridiculous beats.
     
  2. PHINJ

    PHINJ Active Member

    Completely ridiculous beats happen all the time. If you play a lot, then 1 in 45 chances are going to happen often enough that you'll keep getting burned by them and you'll always remember them.

    You played these hands perfectly and got bad results. There's nothing you can do about that and those kinds of things are going to continue to happen if you keep playing.

    So you can either quit worrying about the results and focus on playing better in other hands (I'm sure you must have big pots that you won by calling all-in with AJ and he had QQ and you hit runner-runner for a straight or something) or quit playing altogether.
     
  3. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    That's just brutal.

    Maybe my friend Mike has moved to your neck of the woods.

    Nah. He would have beaten you with quad 2s.
     
  4. Chef

    Chef Active Member

    Thing about this guy......9 times out of 10, you'll take him to the woodshed.

    He got his hand against you.
     
  5. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    Yeah but it's only human nature to let shit like that affect your future hands...especially if you're playing on a limited budget.
     
  6. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    I understand this logic, but when you keep score with CASH it's hard to not worry about the results.
     
  7. PHINJ

    PHINJ Active Member

    If you let a bad beat affect your future hands, then that is a leak in your game.
    I mean, the guy got it all in with KK and AA when he was an overwhelming favorite. If you're going to start playing KK and AA differently there because "OMG, once I had aces full and some donk hit a one-outer," then there is really no point in playing ever again.


    CASH has nothing to do with it. Whether you are playing with play money or at $10,000-$20,000 table in Reno, there isn't any other way to play the hands. If you're not comfortable with losing the money on the table, then you need to move down to lower stakes or not play at all. Fear is a debilitating weakness in no-limit games.

    There are many talented players with poor bankroll management skills who can go on tilt after a bad beat and throw good money after bad.

    They're called losers.

    The vast majority of us amateur players are going to be long-term losers. We can either try to improve and fix the leaks in our games or, at the least, play at stakes low enough where we can handle the incredible swings in variance.
     
  8. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    Sorry man but if your budget calls for limited poker nights and you tend to play with toolbags whose money burns a hole in their pocket...it does affect you.
     
  9. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    So the bad beat jackpot wasn't in play during a tournament? Or was this online?
     
  10. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    My recent bad beat.

    Playing in a home tourney with about 35-40 guys. $30 entry with $30 rebuys the first 2.5 hours. Which is brutal because the game didn't start until 10 and I'm usually asleep by no later than 11. The game has painfully small blinds and a the levels are not steep. People are very passive at my table and there are 3 rebuys total in the 2.5 hour period. In the other 3 tables, there are over 30 rebuys. The play at my table is simply awful -- very little raising and I'm able to steal a ton.

    By the end of the rebuy period, I have about half of the chips at my table and I'm not even playing that great. Eventually make it the final table of 10. By the time that we are down to 6 players, there is one huge stack who has been doing nothing, one somewhat big stack who tripled up playing a pair of 3s all in with 2 all ins in front of him and hit a set and the rest of us have about 1/2 the size of the number 2 guy.

    I have 6,000 chips in front of me one off of the button, blinds are 150/300. Folded to me when I see A-Q of spades. I make it 1,000 to go. Folded to the number 2 stack in the BB who calls. Pot is 2,450.

    Flop is Q-7-2, with two hearts and a club. BB checks and I don't like the two hearts. I think about going all in, but I bet 2,500. BB calls.

    Turn is the 3 of clubs. BB checks and I go all in with my last 2,500. BB calls. He turns over K-10 of clubs.

    River is the 8 of clubs. Bye-bye Webster.
     
  11. PHINJ

    PHINJ Active Member

    Affects you how, exactly? Again, when you play a hand perfectly and end up with a bad result, it shouldn't affect anything about your game.

    I understand (somewhat) how telling bad beat stories can be therapeutic. But poker is ultimately about decisions. There are good decisions and bad decisions. The specific result is irrelevant, because decisions are either good decisions or bad decisions based on long-term results. Long term, calling an UTG raise with 83o is a bad decision. The fact that you caught trips on the flop and cracked someone's AA for a huge pot doesn't make it a good decision.

    Are people susceptible to tilt and thus playing several bad hands after a bad beat? Yes. That's a leak in your game.
     
  12. Walter_Sobchak

    Walter_Sobchak Active Member

    This deserves the jpeg of the clapping audience. Couldn't have said it better myself.

    The thing that bothers me most about bad beat stories are that they're typically told from players that do the reverse to others. Everyone rememebers their big losses, but never their big wins. You should WANT those players at your table. I can't emphasize that enough.

    I've been running colder than Siberia for months now. Dropped two buyins at my local casino on a multitude of hideous beats, and had my buddy hit perfect-perfect for a $60 heads up match a couple weeks ago. I won't even go in to my downswing online.
    And you know what? I wouldn't hesitate to go back to my card room, or play my friend heads up again. Because I'm fully aware that I'm a much better player than most I sit down with.
     
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