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Please Hillary Fall on Your Sword

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by EStreetJoe, Feb 24, 2008.

  1. EStreetJoe

    EStreetJoe Well-Known Member

    I stole this from one of the Springsteen newsgroups/message boards I post to:


    Hillary: Please Fall on Your Sword

    By Jill Kuraitis, 2-24-08

    Cheese, Hillary.

    For crying out loud, GET OUT ALREADY!

    C'mon, Hil: we have a real chance to win the presidency. If you fight
    to the finish, you'll divide the Democratic party at a time when a
    rare unity is upon us.

    It's clearly the will of the party - more states, more delegates -
    that Obama is our nominee. He's ignited a new generation, and they
    won't donate or volunteer if you're the nominee. To them, you're old-

    If you're the nominee, we'll lose. Can't you feel it?

    Clearly not. And the fact that you can't feel it - or refuse to
    believe it - is one of the reasons you're not our pick. You've lost
    touch with the Democratic zeitgeist, especially in the West.

    For ONCE, would you please show that a Clinton can act with the good
    of the party in mind, instead of the good of the Clinton in mind?

    As a former fan, I can't believe I just said that. A lot of us spent
    political capital denying you two were selfish, but now it's too
    obvious, and destructive, to ignore.

    Don't get us wrong, Senator; you're qualified to be commander-in-
    chief. Your intelligence is not in question. You've got some great
    ideas and plans to improve the lives of Americans.

    And screw the political fashion police; the pantsuits are fine.

    But we don't owe you the job, which you seem to believe. That has
    mightily ticked off Bill's old fans. Until you reined him in last
    week, he wasn't doing you any good, you know. His sense of
    entitlement - for which he was already famous - is worse than yours.

    He was just starting to be an excellent Former President, and now he's
    blown it. And here we thought he'd recovered from his old patterns.
    Our sense of betrayal by him, all too familiar, is back. And it rubs
    off on you.

    Think about it: what political family in recent memory has infuriated
    us with their offensive sense of entitlement? So much so that they
    probably stole two elections?

    That kind of power is wrong, and your campaign looks a lot like the
    Democrat's version.

    The stories of your team's thug-like tactics to gain advantage have
    alarmed us. When you speak, there's just a tiny hint of I-know-better-
    than-you. We don't like your vote for the Iraq war, and we especially
    don't like your refusal to admit you were wrong.

    Oh, and Hillary? That Wal-Mart Board of Directors thing? The
    corporate-tool accusations start there. You don't seem interested in
    or willing to confront corporate power which keeps working people
    poor. Ending the culture of corporations running the country is one
    of Obama's central themes, and we like it.

    Listen, Hil. We don't care about yours or Obama's clothes or hair. We
    truly do realize you've done a lot of good in your political life.
    We're sorry for the pain that unfortunately-loveable cad Bill has
    caused you. We think it stinks that Americans tend to vote on
    personality and their emotional reactions to candidates, instead of
    voting on the issues. And we're sorry that this next reality hurts,

    But it must be said: too many people have a visceral dislike for you,
    many of them Democrats. It's not all about your ideas, beliefs, or
    stance on the issues. You just seem - well, cold. Calculating.
    Grasping. Not to mention old-guard, inside-baseball politics.

    We hear you're really not like that, but the Hillary we see rubs a lot
    of us the wrong way.

    Without crossover Republican votes, we can't win. Some Democrats will
    cross the other way to vote for McCain, but darling: Republicans
    won't cross to vote for you.

    We're dying for victory. We shouldn't have to tell you about the ruin
    Bush has left, the civil liberties he's undone, the international
    reputation he's squandered, the troops who have died and been maimed,
    the billions he's wasted, the judges he's stacked, the environmental
    crises he's ignored.

    Senator, it's true: Obama's our guy. We know he's not perfect or
    perhaps as ready as you to function from day one. But say what you
    like about him - we see political courage, leadership, inspiration
    and, yes: hope. Our Democratic young people are back in the political
    game, which is something too important to ignore. They were just
    schoolkids when Bill was president; Bush is the president of their
    recent awareness, and they see nothing but disasters from him.

    They're ready to seize the reins, and they don't see you on the

    When Obama says, "For real change to happen, I need your help. Will
    you?" they hear, "Ask not what your country can do for you......"

    He has good ideas. He's a leader and an honorable man. We like him.
    Above all, he's electable.

    That's what matters now, Hillary. You must give up your dreams for all
    our dreams. You must show that a Clinton can act with the good of the
    party in mind, instead of the good of the Clinton in mind.

    That, not the presidency, is how you're called to serve.

    And Hillary: really, thanks for everything.
  2. Oh, well, hell, if the Springsteen fan-boards say so, it must be true.
    I swear to god, if the Obama people really are this upset that she hasn't dropped out before Ohio and Texas vote, then they;re really not ready for the GOP shitstorm this fall.
  3. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    If mathematically you're still in it, and you won California, New York and Massachusetts (as well as Florida, which doesn't really count, I guess) . . .you have the right to see it through. Even if it's obviously a long shot.

    How would Obama and his acolytes react to a similar call if the standings were reversed?
  4. I hope they'd fight, tooth and nail down to the last minute.
    Meanwhile, on MTP today, is Doris Kearns Goodwin really the right person to be discussing whether Obama copped lines from Deval Patrick.
    Who vets this mess?
  5. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    If the standings were reversed, Obama would have been driven out of the race by now, but I take your point.

    She has ever right to see this through to March 4th. He could stumble. I wish she'd try and take some portion of the high road, but I know that's not realistic.

    When she loses Texas -- and she's losing in Texas -- she'd best concede on the fifth.
  6. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    No, she is not.

    However, I've always had a huge crush on the woman since I read "Lyndon Johnson and the American Dream"

    Back on topic, David Olive's column in the Star today thinks Hilary should drop out--for the good of the party.


    Democrats have never nominated a candidate who lost 11 consecutive contests, as Clinton has since Feb. 5. Turning back the Obama tide is a mathematical improbability, given the Democratic practice of apportioning delegates by popular vote. To even narrow Obama's lead in pledged delegates, Clinton has to win the next two delegate-rich states of Texas and Ohio on March 4 by wide margins.
  7. MU_was_not_so_hard

    MU_was_not_so_hard Active Member

    I agree completely. Most people would consider me an "Obama person." In many ways, I view this as an accurate way to vet someone I probably want to vote for. While I've been a little dissapointed in Hillary going as negative as she has, I also think she's making Obama a potentially stronger president, not just a strong candidate.
    The shit he's going through now is a drop in the bucket to what's going to happen in November, or any time he might be in office.
  8. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    I say this as a Democrat who voted for Kerry and fully intends to vote for Obama:

    When I read shit like "they probably stole two elections," I pretty much tune out and dismiss everything the writer has to say.
  9. service_gamer

    service_gamer Well-Known Member

    I think it's fairly obvious that, whether tainted or not, more Floridians intended to vote for Gore than Bush. However, I remember reading this piece by RFK Jr. roughly a year ago, and it at least made me think:
  10. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    I've changed my mind . I want Hillary to stay in till the end and see the hilarity that ensue. The rift will set the Republicans up through 2016.
  11. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    Tremendous column. Why isn't this person writing for Newsweek, NYT or Post?
  12. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    I stopped reading after "Cheese Hillary."
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