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Philly schools cancel Teachers' union contracts

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!, Oct 6, 2014.

  1. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    We've thrown more and more money at school systems and they've done nothing but get worse. Might be time to try something else, because all school systems have been for the last 30 years is a jobs program for public unions.
     
  2. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    We've thrown more and more money at school systems the military and they've its done nothing but get worse. Might be time to try something else, because all school systems the military have has been for the last 30 years is a jobs program for public unions defense contractors.

    You can't fix education by throwing money at it. That strategy only works for the DOD and Homeland Security.
     
  3. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    FDR was against the idea of public-employee unions.

    The reason for this is simple: When the two sides get together to negotiate a contract, the people who actually pay the bills aren't given a seat at the table. The unions buy politicians (always from one specific party, too) and then sit down and negotiate with the politicians they own. When do the folks who pay the bills get a say?
     
  4. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    It's beyond stupid to suggest the public doesn't have a seat at the table in negotiations conducted by an elected government.
     
  5. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    It's beyond stupid to think that politicians whose campaign coffers are filled by unions don't have a huge conflict of interest when they're responsible for watching the taxpayers' money.
     
  6. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Wow. You seriously think teacher unions aren't necessary? Nope. Definitely you on the bender.
     
  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Funny how campaign contributions only matter to you when they are going in a direction you don't like.
     
  8. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Less money for education. That's your solution?

    Only somebody like tony could come out on the same side as Corbett. I doubt you put any more thought into this than checking on which party Corbett is a part of, but you got to attack public education in the deal, so that must have made your week.
     
  9. Hokie_pokie

    Hokie_pokie Well-Known Member

    There are societal problems that will impact the public education system no matter how much money we throw at it.

    At the same time, not sure how anyone can justify taking money out of public education, use it to build a prison instead, then blame the teachers' union for a school system's fiscal woes.

    It's disingenuous as hell.
     
  10. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    All part of the conspiracy; whenever they get the legal ammunition to do so, they just walk in and wipe out union contracts.

    The endgame of course is to get rid of public education completely.
     
  11. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    We keep spending more and it never gets to the classroom. School systems are just public-employee jobs programs. And people are getting rich while the kids aren't getting educated.

    http://watchdog.org/132881/philly-district-pay/
     
  12. Hokie_pokie

    Hokie_pokie Well-Known Member

    Nobody is arguing that there aren't some seriously ineffective -- perhaps even corrupt -- school systems in America.

    Most, however, are the furthest thing from "public employee job programs."

    My wife has taught for 22 years at a public elementary school in the poorest section of our county. Let me assure you that she is most definitely NOT getting rich. In fact, she's basically making the same salary as she was 7 years ago.

    Of course, we live in a right-to-work state (Va.), so there's no collective bargaining. Teachers are told to take what they get and enjoy it.
     
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