Peyton Manning's Legacy

We've been hearing about this all week, so let's give it a thread.

Is Manning really staking a claim to being the best quarterback in NFL history if he finally gets a Super Bowl ring Sunday? Obviously it raises his standing, but I'm not sure it puts him at the top.

To me, it's still Joe Montana at the top. He had the combination of great statistics, amazing comebacks and championships. Who else makes the elite group?

One thing that drove me nuts today was two local radio idiots coming up with a list of quarterbacks they would take ahead of Montana (Manning, Dan Marino, Tom Brady, Steve Young were on it).

The best was how uninformed they were. They dismissed Montana's mobility, which was an important part of his game. They listed that as an advantage for Brady over Montana, which flat out isn't true.

They also dismissed his numbers as a bunch of five-yard outs that Jerry Rice turned into big plays. Never mind that Montana led the 49ers to two Super Bowl championships without Rice. Freddie Solomon and Dwight Clark were nice receivers, but they weren't Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.

End of rant...other opinions?

 

Montana and Unitas were the best I ever saw personally.
There's a case that perhaps Starr was better than Johnny U, but I respectfully disagree.
Check back on the history/stat books, Otto Graham is the best of 'em. He lost like 20 games in a 10 year career.
My dad grew up in DC, insists Baugh was the best. He could be right.
After a certain point of superlativeness, "best" is an opinion which can never be verified.
It's natural but pointless to insist otherwise.

 

Peyton's legacy will be as my babydaddy.

 

I love Peyton. I think he is great. He's the best and he has nothing to prove to me Sunday.

 

Um, BYH? You seem to have misposted. I think you were looking for the "make lies up about yourself" thread.

 

**sigh**
Do we need another restraining order?

 

No. No restraining order necessary.

The only one I'd kidnap (for his own good) would be Brook. The rest will just have to live with the pain of not being with me.

 

He'd need to win a couple more to be anywhere in Montana territory

 

Peyton certainly is no Dave Dickinson.

 

QBs better than Manning, as far as historic impact, quality of teammates they had to lift, leadership and of course, the most important aspect: victory . . . . (no particular order):

Joe Montana
John Elway
Tom Brady
Johnny Unitas
Troy Aikman
Steve Young

Yes, I know Aikman had great teammates. But he was very underrated, just excellent, and a gamer. Young too. But the top three . . .Montana didn't get a truly great offense around him until after the first Super Bowl, and Elway lifted teams to great things before Davis got there. Brady . . .you won't see any of his WRs or RBs in the Hall of Fame.

I put Unitas because if I didn't, I'd hear about it. Can't say I ever saw him play.

QBs Manning is undoubtedly superior to:
Dan Marino and everyone below him.

The only thing I cannot stand about Manning, of course, is that pre-snap idiocy. Stop shouting, Peyton, the defense sees that no one is moving, and they're not fooled. It takes Elway's damn head shakes to the next level.

If he wins Sunday, his legacy will be that he broke through and became a champion after falling short for a lifetime. Nothing will change that, ever. And the overrated Marino will be pissed off.

 

Either of them are welcome to father my children.

 

But they're older than 13. [/dead. to. Sportschick.]