Personal experience with abortion

Desk Slave and Starman: The problem with defending an indefensible position is you trap yourself. You are both advocating violence against abortion doctors for proof from pro-lifers that they are sincere. We'd prefer change through legal means in which babies are spared and no else is killed either. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say you're both for Obama and his mantra of change. Got a feeling he would be sickened by your suggestions, too. You are in over your heads.

 

Apparently, Italian_Stallion's tremendous suggestion is already going unheeded.

What is with this place today?

 

Solid logic. Unfortunately, it escapes many, who have axes to grind.

 

How bout this side of the story...

I have a friend who got pregnant in college. She was not ready to be a mother and didn't love the guy who got her pregnant, so she had an abortion. Years later, she met the man she did love and had two kids and a very happy life. I think it's a safe bet if she'd had that first baby, neither her life nor the life of that child would have turned out as well as her current life and that of her current family.

One more thing: I think that people's opinions on the subject can change once they are actually faced with the situation, and it can go either way. I imagine there are a lot of pro-choice people who, once in the room, can't imagine aborting a fetus. And there are probably also pro-life people who can't imagine turning a teenager's life upside down FOREVER because of one mistake (an unwanted pregnancy).

I'm probably going to be sorry I entered this thread.

 

You're right about that (not the sorry to enter the thread part). I may get flayed for citing a chick flick, but I've always thought that pro-lifers should see the movie "Dirty Dancing". The environment in 1963, where a single woman's choices were either get ostracized for having an out of wedlock baby, go to an unwed mother home, or risk her life for having an abortion on a folding table with a rusty knife is an environment I hope we never go back to.

 

It's just hopeless, isn't it?

My only experience with this is a close friend who got a woman pregnant about 11 years ago. She initially decided to get an abortion, but she ended up having to listen to a pro-life presentation first at the clinic. Whatever they said, it worked and she decided to keep the baby, with the full support of my friend. He had been against the abortion from the start, but respected her wishes.

My friend asked her to marry him, but she declined. Her parents were supportive regarding the baby, but nearly disowned her over that decision, but it turned out for the best. My friend has a now 10-year-old daughter that serves as a permanent reminder that abortion would have been the wrong choice in this case.

BB Bobcat, you raise one of the reasons I hate debates on this issue. Both sides are so busy making speeches and judgments that they don't even bother to understand the other side.

Pro-choice does not always mean pro-abortion. My friend that I mentioned above is a perfect example of that, as am I. Just because we believe in a woman's right to choose does not mean that we believe abortion is a proper choice. Obviously, there are exceptions (such as risk to the mother's health and rape victims).

To be clear, I'm not going to tell any woman what to do with her body, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with the choices that are made.

 

Bobcat, your post is the exact reason this should be a matter of deep personal choice, not a bureaucratic proclamation from a bunch of politicians.

 

I'm pitching my tent in the More BJs camp.

 

That's a lot of little SportsJournalists.commers who aren't pitter-pattering around here.

 

Heard someone on the radio the other day saying that there is no way the abortion laws will ever be overturned. Her logic was the republicans have had the people to do it on the courts, but they never will because it gets people out to the polls.

Kind of an interesting take.