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People not motivated by religion shouted "Allahu Akbar" during a moment of silence for Paris

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Nov 18, 2015.

  1. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    France wouldn't let us overfly their country when Reagan bombed Gadhafi in 1986. Should we kick France out of NATO too?
     
  2. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    So ISIS is stronger than it was 18 months ago?
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Is it weaker? By what metric?
     
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  4. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    Would they be missed?
     
  5. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    You tell me. You're the one mocking Kerry.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Their ability to inspire attacks globally only seems to be growing.

    They still hold significant land in Syria and Iraq.

    They're still attracting fighters to come and join them.

    They still hold Yazidi women as sex slaves.

    They've lost some land, and some fighters. I'm not sure that's a big setback.

    As long as the Caliphate exists in some form, they are winning in the eyes of their followers, which allows them to continue to inspire further terror attacks.
     
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  7. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    Kerry is the one who said ISIS is on the run. So he should tell us how ISIS is weaker.
     
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  8. amraeder

    amraeder Well-Known Member

    Number of those joining down:
    Flow of foreign ISIS recruits much slower now, U.S. says

    And losing territory and money:
    Islamic State has lost grip on 12% of territory in six months – study

    A map of 2015 territory losses that have only continued in 2016:
    This map shows how much territory ISIS has lost this year

    And again, loss of territory means loss of financing:
    Islamic State’s moneymaking streams take a hit as it loses territory

    It's forcing them to cut salaries:
    End of jihadis' 5-star lifestyle as austerity sends Daesh into MELTDOWN

    And again, that's costing recruitment and leading to desertions:
    ISIS Foreign Fighters In Syria And Iraq Drop As Islamic State Group Loses Revenue, Ground

    The problem is, when they become too weak to take ground in traditional military campaigns, they turn to other tactics like many before them:
    What Should We Make Of The Islamic State’s Ramadan Wave Of Violence? - Foreign Policy Research Institute

    Weaker doesn't = defeated. It doesn't = unable to do harm abroad. It doesn't = going to be finished off any time soon. It just = weaker. Fewer men. Less money. Declining territory.
     
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