Pedro Martinez: I didn't need steroids to dominate.

When he was in his slinging prime, you actually enjoyed watching him dominate your team.

 

For my money, the greatest clutch pitching performance was Pedro coming out of the bullpen and no-hitting the Indians in the 1999 ALDS. I'm not a Red Sox fan or an Indians hater; I was just blown away watching Pedro sling unhittable fastball after unhittable fastball.

 

Agreed. I have little interest in baseball, but I loved watching him pitch.

 

As much as I despise Pedro for some of his antics and his former team, I cannot deny this: he is probably one of the greatest pitchers ever. Even more so now since he dominated during such an offense-oriented era without (hopefully) using PEDs. He's the first pitcher that ever made me think/say "Damn, well this game is a loss" as soon as I read his name on the pitching line.

 

Average career length of start: 5.9 innings (IP divided by games). He may have relieved one or two but that doesn't change this stat dramatically. Throwing out the last two years (injuries) and he's averaged less than 200 IP per year since going to Boston.

Sorry. I like my pitchers to get me to the 8th or 9th. You Boston and Mets fanboys can just calm down.

 

Nitwit, starters aren't going eight or nine innings anymore.

And as for your formula, I'm sure you took into account the half seasons he pitched with the Red Sox and Mets while coming off of surgery.

 

A friend PM'd me and told me to post the following stat, which blows Hondo's mathematical masturbation out of the fucking water.

 

Are you this much of an idiot, please show me one starter that on average goes 8 or 9 innings. Did you not read the post half way up the page detailing his complete games through the years he dominated. You obviously don't watch much baseball if your spewing this crap and I'm far from a Mets fanboy. In a juiced up era he dominated hitters.

 

JC, yes, he's that much of a tool.

 

Wow, it's one thing to make an offhand comment that shows you don't know what you are talking about. It is another to actually try to argue it once you have had your ass thoroughly kicked.

Martinez has been over 200 IP seven times in his career. Also threw 199 1/3 in 2002 and 194 2/3 in 1995.

Your bulllshit stat also takes advantage of the 63 relief appearances in 1993, doesn't it? Are you counting those in the average innings per start.

Oh, one more thing. I'm not a Mets or Red Sox fan. Just somebody who understands how great Martinez has been and how clueless you are.

 

Guys all this comes down to is the fact that hondo doesn't like Pedro. As we've seen countless times on the board, if hondo doesn't like an athlete personally, he sucks. No amount of statistical analysis will convince him otherwise. It's shouting into the wind. He can't hear you, and he's not even trying to listen.