1. Welcome to SportsJournalists.com, a friendly forum for discussing all things sports and journalism.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register for a free account to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Access to private conversations with other members.
    • Fewer ads.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Payback is a B@!*#

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Cubbiebum, Mar 16, 2012.

  1. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    I would bet the majority of the people in the United States have at least technically committed some type of felony they were never charged for -- maybe a tax thing or traffic infraction.


    What was the "head shot" in The Wire that the feds could have used? Taking out a mortgage with money borrowed from a parent or someone without telling the bank.
     
  2. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member


    Tough shit, tough shit, tough shit.

    CDTT, DDTC.
     
  3. Beaker

    Beaker Active Member

    He was found guilty on invasion of privacy and it looks like at least one jury question relating to bias intimidation (not guilty on some others):

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/16/justice/new-jersey-rutgers-trial/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    Edit: To be clear, it seems he was found not guilty on some subparts of some of the charges, but guilty on all 15 counts.
     
  4. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    Rush Limbaugh would watch that video.
     
  5. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    So how much prison time do you deserve the next time you advocate Starman justice on someone? You know, threatening bodily harm?
     
  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Actually, you don't even have to stretch. We have three times as many people sitting in jail today was we did in 1987. And 25 percent of them have multi-year sentences on drug charge convictions.

    I can't stand hate crime laws. They make the perceived thought behind the crime, in addition to the crime, into something worse than the crime itself. When we have enough to have a good system of justice if we just prosecute the crime and stop deciding what motivations make it worthy of more or less jail time.

    But that said? In the list of fucked up things about our justice system in practice, this isn't affecting hundreds of thousands of people.

    Take a step back and ask yourself honestly, who did a worse thing -- a guy serving a 10-year stretch for selling cocaine, or this guy?

    This isn't the thing to get outraged about "overcharging." Not with how our system of justice works in practice.
     
  7. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    You don't want to be convicted of a felony? Don't do it. Pretty simple. Do not rely on the "everyone is doing it" argument. Empty.

    The foundation of our society is that everyone is presumed to know the law and you are bound by it.

    Is there selective prosecution? Yes, no doubt. But when you commit the crime you subject yourself to the prosecutor's discretion. That's the rule we live by, unless you want to go to a discretion-less system; um not me. Then you get the war chambers of Star Trek (oh you blew up my city on the computer, okay next 50,000 people step into the chamber.)
     
  8. Beaker

    Beaker Active Member

    Asking whether things would have been different had Mr. Clementi been having sex with a chick (which as Ace pointed out, it wouldn't be had the result been the same) is really just another way of playing the "blame the victim" game.
     
  9. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    I don't have to choose between being outraged about this and outraged about the war on drugs.
     
  10. Beaker

    Beaker Active Member

    Yup. Couldn't say it any better.
     
  11. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    We'll see when the cases go to court. They'll need evidence of a direct threat of bodily harm, rather than consistent advocacy of dramatically increased penalties for criminal convictions.
     
  12. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Selective prosecution isn't bad because of how it treats the perpetrator. It's bad because we're better than that as a society.
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page