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Paterno back to 409. Vacated wins to be restored.

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Vombatus, Jan 16, 2015.

  1. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

  2. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I don't think he was ever SE, either. He really embarrassed himself with that effort.
     
  3. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    Nothing screams "small time" and "insecure" like arguing with your readers in the comments underneath your story.
     
  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Wow. I hadn't read the comments. I am actually embarrassed for him.
     
  5. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

  6. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Kevin Scarbinsky's line - "Paterno has his wins back. Where do Jerry Sandusky's victims go to get their innocence back?'
     
  7. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Paterno was the lube in Sandusky's perversions.
     
  8. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    Were there any rallies or candlelight vigils on campus the past two days?
     
  9. Which is funny, because if I remember correctly, he took a lot of shots at Paterno when he was coach.
     
  10. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

  11. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    By Frank Bodani
    fbodani@ydr.com
    @YDRPennState on Twitter
    The billboards, bumper stickers and T-shirts have been around for more than three years.
    But the flash point from 10 days ago is still burning ...
    What does 409 mean to you?
    It is the number of victories for Joe Paterno — the most in major college football coaching history — before he was fired, died and the NCAA vacated more than a quarter of the wins.
    So, here was the black-and-white of it after the recent NCAA settlement: Penn State supporters celebrated those restored victories with “409” patches, social media posts and more billboards ... and Penn State detractors slammed the university for yet another mark of insensitivity toward the victims of Jerry Sandusky’s abuse.
    But 409 owns a deeper, layered meaning, too, which strikes directly at where we are in continuing to untangle this saga — one always far more complicated that most wanted to believe.
    Anthony Lubrano, a Penn State trustee, says 409 “isn’t about football. It’s about success with honor” — and the fight to defend how that tenet never went away.
    “I think what hurt people the most … is (the charge) that Penn State achieved that success with an unfair advantage and with having the culture to allow children to be harmed to protect the football program,” Lubrano said.
    “All of us were charged with that.”

    Meanwhile, key investigations and legal proceedings roll on more than three years later. The goal remains figuring out who is rightfully culpable beyond Sandusky.
    Put aside the adulation of Paterno and football. Many Penn Staters simply want legitimate answers, as to who knew about Sandusky’s abuse and who was potentially covering for him. So be it if it’s their own officials — just that so it’s the right ones.
    The dust-up over 409 highlights how there’s still so much we don’t know. As in the role of organizations close to Sandusky, the so-called “experts” on children and abuse — The Second Mile, children and youth services and the Department of Public Welfare.
    We also still don’t know enough about those implicated in November 2011: Tim Curley, Graham Spanier, Gary Schultz and, in some ways, even Paterno.
    We need more on NCAA officials, Louis Freeh and the Penn State board of trustees.
    At least progress is being made in truth-seeking, even if its slower than most want.
    More key depositions, legal documents and email exchanges are expected to be made public soon. The federal government continues to investigate The Second Mile. The trials for Curley, Spanier and Schultz are still looming. And the Paterno lawsuit is working through the system.
    Most recently, we’ve learned Penn State board of trustees chair Keith Masser admitted in a deposition that Paterno wasn’t fired because of any potential wrongdoing — only because he would be a “distraction.”
    We keep learning, if we allow ourselves. What does 409 truly mean?
    It’s an example of the “restoration of the truth,” said Ray Blehar, a U.S. government analyst with a Penn State MBA who’s been exhaustively researching the Sandusky case on his own time.
    “People see that the NCAA was wrong. They see it as part of the truth being revealed. If it was true Paterno did what they said he did, they would have never restored his wins.”
    Actually, it shouldn’t matter what side you’re on. This is about moving closer to answers that may help everyone finally understand how we’ve gotten where we are, which goes far beyond football.
    To receive the kind of answers that weren’t possible more than three years ago.
    If only so many didn’t demand it all, anyway.
    Frank Bodani covers Penn State football for the Daily Record/Sunday News. Reach him at 771-2104, fbodani@ydr.com or @YDRPennState.
     
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