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Paging Frank Ridgeway: Shirt and tie without a jacket?

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Dick Whitman, Sep 12, 2012.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I don't know. I know some guys look cool in them. I know that I do not.
     
  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Interesting. So dress pants on all occasions?

    What about darker, slimmer jeans? What about with a jacket? What about really good-looking guys?
     
  3. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Luckily I'm very youthful and slender and beautiful and have nothing to worry about. Nothing.

    I knock around with jeans, but don't much bother trying to dress them up anymore.

    That said, I default to slacks/shirt/tie whenever I'm out of the house working. Not always 'dress' pants, like a grey flannel, the slacks are sometimes dark, sometimes khaki (rarely the lighter shades), never pleated. White dress shirt. Subdued tie. Conventional sport coat, but in the best fabric and cut I can afford - usually from a super discounter like Saks Off-5th or Century 21.

    Shoes depend on the work day. If I'm going to be walking miles and miles, especially outdoors, I'll substitute a black walking shoe for dress shoes.
     
  4. Key

    Key Well-Known Member

    In reference to "button-down shirts"... Are we discussing the button-down collar? Not a big fan of those, either with or without a tie. I have some, but I definitely would not wear one with a tie. Too junior-high-schooler-at-church for me.

    Also, I wear casual dress shoes with jeans. Different than what I wear with a suit, but I left the sneakers and jeans look a few years ago. Usually go with black. Shoes, not jeans.
     
  5. Buck

    Buck Well-Known Member

    Button-down refers to the collar. Like most clothing of athletic origin, it is considered more casual.
    Some people still insist that a button-down should not be worn with a tie, but that is my default look for work.
    It is also important to note that I work at a college, not at law office. What is appropriate work attire for me would not be appropriate for others.
     
  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I thought a button-down shirt is a shirt that button downs the front.

    A button-down collar is a type of button-down shirt.
     
  7. Buck

    Buck Well-Known Member

    That's a common mistake. Button-down refers to the collar, not the shirt.
    All shirts that button up the front are not button-down shirts.
     
  8. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    No, it makes you look the manager of a fast food joint or grocery store.
    Try wearing the combo at your local grocery store and count how many people come up to you and
    ask where soup isle is.
    Go short sleeve if you want to look like the manager of the local saw mill.
     
  9. Key

    Key Well-Known Member

    Buck, I should clarify. When I was in the biz, my shop required us to wear ties. I wore button-down, short-sleeve, and anything else that seemed acceptable yet questionably fashionable with a tie.

    Since I no longer have to wear a tie at work, I'm more particular and veer toward the non-button-down shirts, although I'm not up on the nomenclature of different collar styles.
     
  10. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Hmm, I've seen a lot of white jeans on the menswear blogs. (And my wife likes mine.)
     
  11. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    I have some button down shirts, all long sleeved sports shirts--mostly Hilfiger I'm sorry to say-- but I haven't bought one in years. I wear them with khakis and my loafers when I want to look all 60's frat boy

    I stopped wearing button downs with a suit and tie about 20 years ago. The only thing that would make that look worse is pleated pants . You might as well be wearing spats.

    That said, I haven't actually worn a suit to work in about 15 years.
     
  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    There remains in New York City and its bedroom suburbs a narrow band of anachronism in a kind of very traditional midtown Manhattan/Northeast prep/academic publishing office look: Brooks Brothers sack suit, Brooks Brothers white or pale blue cotton Oxford button-down shirt, rep tie or bow tie - all above black wingtips with plank soles. Carry a briefcase or lacrosse stick on the 6:19 back to Rowayton to complete the ensemble.
     
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