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Pacers fire coach Rick Carlisle; should they have fired Bird or Walsh instead?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by ondeadline, Apr 25, 2007.

  1. ondeadline

    ondeadline Active Member

    As I start this thread, I kind of wonder if it deserves its own thread. But here it is. :)
     
  2. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    Re: Pacers fire coach Rick Carlisle

    I think major hirings and firings do. Some of us don't bother with the running threads, and we wouldn't want to miss real news.

    And it's not Rick's fault they made terrible trades to unload Ron-Ron and Stephen Jackson. He'll land someplace else shortly. He's a hella good coach.
     
  3. JackyJackBN

    JackyJackBN Guest

    Re: Pacers fire coach Rick Carlisle

    Carlisle to Sonics? (Maybe he's too smart for that. But he knows the turf.)
     
  4. Mmac

    Mmac Guest

    Re: Pacers fire coach Rick Carlisle

    Perhaps a better way of framing this thread for debate should of been: Should Bird and Walsh have been fired instead? They're more responsible for this failed Pacer season than Carlisle, who was given an utterly unwinnable roster the last half of the season.
     
  5. Idaho

    Idaho Active Member

    Re: Pacers fire coach Rick Carlisle

    We can change the thread title later if we need to, but I'll post an NBA coaching thought:

    I think Jerry Sloan will retire after the playoffs. He's kind of lost his zeal, IMO.

    Who would be a good fit in Utah? It's a young, talented team, but it's going to be very strange with a different coach. Who is a good fit with this Jazz team?
     
  6. The Sonics should jump at the chance to hire Carlisle and will certainly give him a long look. Sonics President Wally Walker and Carlisle have a connection in that both attended Virginia, about a decade apart. Carlisle's a helluva offensive coach, and a healthy Sonics lineup could be formidable.
     
  7. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    The Indianapolis Star ran an unintentionally hilarious for-and-against point on Carlisle when it said in the for category was Carlisle's extraordinarily complicated offense, which others found difficult to prepare for, and in the against category was Carlisle's extraordinarily complicated offense, which his own players couldn't figure out. The chart quote NBA security personnel saying Carlisle ran the longest shootarounds in the league -- 75 minutes, rather than the usual 45, because he was so busy putting new wrinkles into his offense.

    Carlisle was just fired as coach -- he can keep his front-office job if he wishes.
     
  8. I think they should have fired all three.
     
  9. Twoback

    Twoback Active Member

    The complete list of crappy GMs who are GMs just because they were Celtics:
    1) Danny Ainge.
    2) Kevin McHale.
    3) Larry Bird.
     
  10. Mmac

    Mmac Guest

    Yup, and don't forget M.L. Carr's glorious tenure running the Celts into the ground in the mid-to-late 90s.
     
  11. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Re: Pacers fire coach Rick Carlisle; should they have fired Bird or Walsh instea

    Carlisle is a good defensive coach. On offense, he is the ultimate extension of the clipboard-waving milk-the-clock control freak.

    The dissolution of the Pacers franchise is the end result of a chain reaction sparked off by building their roster around a psycho head case, Ron Artest, four or five years ago. The decision to do that led to more bad decisions which led to more bad decisions, as they (in effect) threw good money after bad trying to save the original decision. Finally they had enough and shipped Artest out of town, but the damage was done and the roster still had terminal internal weaknesses which have still not been solved.

    The same thing has happened and will continue to happen with the Kings. When you select a maladjusted psycho head case as the guy you want to build your franchise around, you are signing up for a case of cancer which will eat your franchise from the inside out for the next decade. Even after the psycho head case is gone, it takes several more seasons for the bad personnel moves you made to accommodate him to work its way through your franchise's system -- like a combined case of excruciating constipation and explosive projectile diarrhea.
     
  12. RokSki

    RokSki New Member

    Rick's the fall guy. No way Walsh or Bird is going anywhere, and someone had to take the heat.
     
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