Organization of Pedophiles agrees to settlement

[old_tony]

The Catholic Church could be taken a lot more seriously about getting rid of pedophile priests if it would ever DO anything about it, instead of invariably coddling, covering up, and rationalizing for them.

Or, in less hasty terms, if it wouldn't keep settling these cases for millions of dollars. The Church has stopped rationalizing it now, as old_tony said. But it's still paying them off -- and that seems the ultimate in sleazy, no matter how you slice the cake.

Since when is paying when you settle a civil lawsuit a fault for the defendant? Should they settle the suits and then be delinquent on the settlements? That would make them look better?

 

[Starman]

The Catholic Church could be taken a lot more seriously about getting rid of pedophile priests if it would ever DO anything about it, instead of invariably coddling, covering up, and rationalizing for them.

Or, in less hasty terms, if it wouldn't keep settling these cases for millions of dollars. The Church has stopped rationalizing it now, as old_tony said. But it's still paying them off -- and that seems the ultimate in sleazy, no matter how you slice the cake.

Since when is paying when you settle a civil lawsuit a fault for the defendant? Should they settle the suits and then be delinquent on the settlements? That would make them look better?

They should feed the offenders to the criminal authorities.

 

[poindexter]

Actually, anyone interested in an intellectually honest conversation would recognize that there is absolutely no coddling, curvering up and rationalizing going on now. The problem is recognized now. It wasn't in the 70s.

That is absolutely a false statement. The cover up used to involve transferring the pedophiles from parish to parish. Now the cover up centers around concealing the pedophile's files. Cardinal Roger Mahoney in Los Angeles is the cover boy for the scum that represents the catholic church.

 

[old_tony]

The Catholic Church could be taken a lot more seriously about getting rid of pedophile priests if it would ever DO anything about it, instead of invariably coddling, covering up, and rationalizing for them.

Or, in less hasty terms, if it wouldn't keep settling these cases for millions of dollars. The Church has stopped rationalizing it now, as old_tony said. But it's still paying them off -- and that seems the ultimate in sleazy, no matter how you slice the cake.

Since when is paying when you settle a civil lawsuit a fault for the defendant? Should they settle the suits and then be delinquent on the settlements? That would make them look better?

They should feed the offenders to the criminal authorities.

Last I knew they're getting prosecuted.

 

[Pastor]

The Catholic Church could be taken a lot more seriously about getting rid of pedophile priests if it would ever DO anything about it, instead of invariably coddling, covering up, and rationalizing for them.

Or, in less hasty terms, if it wouldn't keep settling these cases for millions of dollars. The Church has stopped rationalizing it now, as old_tony said. But it's still paying them off -- and that seems the ultimate in sleazy, no matter how you slice the cake.

Since when is paying when you settle a civil lawsuit a fault for the defendant? Should they settle the suits and then be delinquent on the settlements? That would make them look better?

They should feed the offenders to the criminal authorities.

Last I knew they're getting prosecuted.

...with little to no help from the Organization of Pedophiles.

The reality is that this stretches not only in America but globally. That so little was done and is being done now is an indictment on the very organization itself.

The Catholic Church has earned the title.

 

[buckweaver]

Never said it was a fault for the defendant, tony.

But for an organization that did -- for a very long time -- fail to acknowledge a problem within its ranks to continue settling these cases for millions ... instead of taking (perhaps more drastic) steps like, oh, allowing priests to have sex lives and be human once in a while ... maybe stepping into the twentieth century and allowing women in the priesthood ... it seems to imply that they're not very interested in acknowledging the problem now, as long as they can just throw money at the accusers.

 

[Bob Cook]

The Catholic Church could be taken a lot more seriously about getting rid of pedophile priests if it would ever DO anything about it, instead of invariably coddling, covering up, and rationalizing for them.

Actually, anyone interested in an intellectually honest conversation would recognize that there is absolutely no coddling, curvering up and rationalizing going on now. The problem is recognized now. It wasn't in the 70s.

Maybe it's recognized. But they're still not doing much about it, short of paying people off with millions of dollars.

I know I'm coming off sounding like a Catholic apologist, but there's not much you can do other than pay people off for everything that happened in the 70s and previous years. Many of the priests alleged to be involved are dead or retired. The McCormack case was startling in that it was a young priest and recent allegations. I guess old habits die hard, but if the church hasn't figured out that people won't wait 30 years anymore to lodge allegations, then it is too stupid to live.

Believe me, the church's liability insurance carrier is making damn sure that at the least, everybody gets the message.

As for the problem being solved by priests marrying -- I fully support the idea of women priests and married priests. But a lot of child molesters are married men, so there's no guarantee a noncelibate priesthood would result in no more kid-diddlers. At the most, it would prevent men from becoming priests for the mere reason of suppressing their urges.

 

[Starman]

In fact, the newly-elected head of the Organization of Pedophiles was extensively quoted, while he was a Cardinal, as saying the entire pedophile-priest scandal was largely a creation of the media.

 

[poindexter]

In fact, the newly-elected head of the Organization of Pedophiles was extensively quoted, while he was a Cardinal, as saying the entire pedophile-priest scandal was largely a creation of the media.

I actually thought it was the last Grand Poohbah of Pedophiles who said it, but it could have been the current one. I remember hearing that as well.

 

[Bob Cook]

In fact, the newly-elected head of the Organization of Pedophiles was extensively quoted, while he was a Cardinal, as saying the entire pedophile-priest scandal was largely a creation of the media.

It is EXTREMELY true that outside North America, the church makes the likes of Cardinal Law look like John Walsh when it comes to crimes against children. Score one for the American lawsuit system!

 

[Starman]

In fact, the newly-elected head of the Organization of Pedophiles was extensively quoted, while he was a Cardinal, as saying the entire pedophile-priest scandal was largely a creation of the media.

I actually thought it was the last Grand Poohbah of Pedophiles who said it, but it could have been the current one. I remember hearing that as well.

JPII, quite wisely, didn't discuss the matter much, other than to express general sympathy for the victims, and also a hope that priests weren't unjustly accused (something the church certainly does worry about a heck of a lot). In other words, something nobody could really argue with very much, and something that does little to actually address the problem.

OTOH, Ratzinger talked about it a LOT while a Cardinal, and the "media-fueled vendetta against the church" was a theme he kept coming back to, again and again.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

And they haven't even begun to study what went on in the missions in places like Africa and the south Pacific where, I am assured by investigators working this beat, there was absolutely no accountability.