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One of the most progressive states in the nation disgraces itself

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by hockeybeat, Jul 6, 2006.

  1. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

  2. Seabasket

    Seabasket Active Member

    I'll never get the battle to stop same-sex marriage. I thought misery loves company.
  3. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    Maybe the people seeking same-sex marriages should thank New York for keeping them from experiencing the same misery as straight couples. ::)

    Still, I have a half dozen friends who would gladly share that misery if they could just be given the chance.
  4. Freelance Hack

    Freelance Hack Active Member

    Gay marriage will be made legal, eventually. More and more young people -- even young right-wingers -- don't care as much about this issue as the older religious conservatives.
  5. jgmacg

    jgmacg Guest

    1) North of 125th Street, New York isn't particularly progressive. All those apple ranchers, forest dwellers and Kodak executives are fairly conservative.

    2) The Court was upholding a pre-existing stipulation of state law. From Reuters: "The New York case involved 48 gay and lesbian couples who filed four separate cases seeking to overturn a 97-year-old state law that defines marriage as between a man and woman."

    All the Court said was that amending our state marriage law is a matter for the legislature, which - if the law's going to have any staying power over time - it is.
  6. PeteyPirate

    PeteyPirate Guest

    It's not a matter of being progressive. The judges ruled that the state law specificies marriage as occurring between a man and a woman. It's the legislators' job to change the law if that is indeed a reflection of what the people want.
  7. trounced

    trounced Active Member

  8. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    I know the Knicks are bad, but "disgrace" is a pretty strong word.
  9. Seabasket

    Seabasket Active Member

    I'd like to believe you're right, but I'm just not sure. While it seems that the younger generation has more open views on homosexuality, I think there's a big leap from them being more tolerant of gays to accepting same-sex marriage. Most conservatives believe they are "preserving the sanctity of marriage." I don't even understand that as a concept. But in the eyes of many, it is a canonical law that can never be changed.
  10. Pastor

    Pastor Active Member

    Sometimes laws are found to be illegal. Were no state or federal benefit to come from marriage, it could be defined as such. The definition and the law imposed by the state is illegal.

    Additionally, laws do not and should not change with the tide of society's beliefs. The laws are in place to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority.
  11. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    The Knicks have nothing to do with gay marriage. Serial bestiality, maybe. :eek:
  12. Lugnuts

    Lugnuts Well-Known Member

    The issue will probably go to the Supreme Court at some point.

    It's a pretty conservative court right now, but I was pleasantly surprised at the Gitmo decision. If the 5 who voted with the majority in that case can hang on 'til the next election, there's a fighting chance any one of these laws could be ruled unconstitutional.
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