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Oklahoma Vows Review of Botched Execution

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, May 1, 2014.

  1. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    I'm the reverse. I'm pro abortion and I'm pro-death penalty. But the death-penalty sentence needs to be something in which there is 100 percent no doubt that they committed the crime, such as McVeigh or Bin Laden.

    Bob Cook pointed out that 4 percent of the death sentence inmates were innocent. Well, 96 percent are guilty. Figure out a better way to reduce that 4 percent to zero.
     
  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    A lot of Catholics, I think.
     
  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Isn't that what the trial is to figure out?
     
  4. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    There isn't a sane person on the planet who is "pro-abortion."

    The opposite camp in the political sphere is "pro-choice," meaning they believe it's everyone's individual right to choose.

    I seriously doubt any sane pro-choicer would argue that MORE abortions are what this country needs.
     
  5. Liut

    Liut Well-Known Member

    I don't know a lot of them but of the ones I do, they're pro-death penalty.
     
  6. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Not all trials are equal.
     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    So how do we, then, for purposes of sentencing, determine which guilty verdicts are reliable and which ones are, "eh, seems like the guy to me" verdicts?
     
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty much anti-DP and anti-abortion.

    The latter is not something I volunteer too often among my liberal friends, that's for sure. Nor the woman I live with, though she knows I'm queasy about it, at the very least.

    An pro-choice person, though, would not see these as at all equivalent, because, in their estimation, that's not a baby. It's not a person. It's a bundle of cells.
     
  9. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Bad wording on my part, although sometimes I'm not always fond of using "pro-choice" as a term either.

    For me, a lot of it is based upon not wanting women having abortions with coat hangers again when there are better alternatives. It's more of a safety thing than a rights thing.
     
  10. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    Probably is where the demographic is strongest, but I know a lot of pro-death penalty and pro-choice Catholics too.
     
  11. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    This is exactly right.
     
  12. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Count me among the anti-DP and anti-abortion people.

    I don't know how we can support state-sanctioned executions. I don't know how anyone can believe life doesn't begin at conception.

    I do, however, believe that the death penalty is a public issue, while abortion is a private medical decision, not unlike euthanasia.
     
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