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Obama's approval rating sinks to new low

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Mar 12, 2012.

  1. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    I know polls show (temporarily) support for the idea, but I have to believe U.S. public interest in another Mideast war is very low. Hell, we've already lost two. Why go for the hat trick? And the plain military fact is, Israel's highly efficient air force is not big enough for the lengthy campaign required to even damage Iran's nuclear program, let alone end it. So I think all three countries are stuck where they are for now -- Iran with a deteriorating economy, and Israel and the U.S. with a sticky issue on which they disagree.
     
  2. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Actually, if he loses the year, Obama would still be eligible to run again in 2016. Highly unlikely, I know.

    But hey, if Grover Cleveland could do it ...
     
  3. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Oh, God, then we'd have another of those confusing arguments about how many Presidents there have been.
     
  4. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    I wonder what Grover Cleveland's campaign strategy was in '92? I wonder if it was "I told you so."

    (Although he actually did win the popular vote in '88 as well, but lost the electoral vote due to some corruption).
     
  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    The "Not As Fat As Taft" campaign never caught fire.
     
  6. Greenhorn

    Greenhorn Active Member

    Harrison would most assuredly had won the popular vote in 1888 (and easily) if Southern African-American men had been allowed to vote. Harrison was a Union veteran after all and Cleveland was not.
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I think it's extremely unlikely we will ever see a President return to office after four years again.

    They would have to resist cashing in on the Presidency, which would be tough. And, they'd have to basically campaign for the job for the entire term they were out of office. That would be unseemly on one hand, and the party of the President who was voted out would not be happy with him/her still being the public face of the party.

    The funny thing is, based on his experience in Arkansas, Bil Clinton might have been the one President who would have attempted it if he had been voted out after one term. And, he may have been successful.
     
  8. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    We -- the US and Israel -- are already at war with Iran. Stuxnet, the fire at the missile launch location, the assassination of numerous scientists are all indications that the Obama administration has Bibbi's back on this. No reason to think that will change, and no reason to think a hot war needs to break out in order to stop Iran from building a nuclear weapon.
     
  9. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Why, on all that?
     
  10. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Baron, corruption was not a factor in Harrison winning despite losing the popular vote. The huge majorities for any Democratic candidate in the South prior to the 1960s were the reason. And I agree with Guy, I don't think there's any inherent reason why a one-term defeated incumbent couldn't try his luck again. This would be especially true if said incumbent lost a close one. Suppose Kerry had defeated G.W. Bush (it was close). I'll bet Bush would have been considered a viable candidate in '08 or failing that, this year.
     
  11. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocks_of_Five

    Greenhorn does have a good point about African-American men in the South not being able to vote. And of course, half the white adult population was not allowed to vote either.
     
  12. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    Cart before the horse.

    Taft could have run on the 'Fatter Than Cleveland AND McKinley' Platform, with (VP) Impunity.

    Of course, they would have had to reinforce the platform.
     
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