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NYT op-ed writer is so mad publications won't pay for his awesomeness

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I agree. He definitely gets around to that. But not before he moralizes about the meanie publications that won't pay him what he's worth.

    I also was completely put off - and I hope we're all in agreement here on this point - about him calling it "shockingly unenjoyable work."

    Want a little cheese with that whine?
     
  2. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    The key to monetizing content is writing more whiny, naval-gazing pieces.
     
  3. Greenhorn

    Greenhorn Active Member

    And for advancing The Narrative.
     
  4. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    This is dead-on.

    You can absolutely make a decent living as a freelance writer. My wife does it quite successfully. The trick is, write for people who pay for your work and don't write for very prestigious websites that don't pay for your work.
     
  5. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Student-athletes?
     
  6. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    I think there's a big demand for those among military types ... :D
     
  7. Morris816

    Morris816 Member

    I can agree with those who have said that publications shouldn't have been giving away material for free.

    At the same time, there are plenty of writers out there who are only concerned with exposure and don't care about compensation. They play as much a role in this as those who give it away for free.

    Perhaps if more writers asked themselves, "Isn't my writing really worth something more than just exposure?" then this wouldn't be an issue. For many of those here, I think they are.

    But what about those who don't post here? Do they feel that way or do they really not care for whatever the reason may be?
     
  8. britwrit

    britwrit Well-Known Member

    I don't know. Outside The Huff Post, he writes that editors requesting free work are from financially strapped publications and websites. And they're the ones asking for what essentially is charity. They're contacting him.

    But hey, I don't feel like going to the supermarket today. If anyone wants some valuable experience in the home food delivery sector (and can chip in a little as well) I have a great opportunity for them.
     
  9. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    And the word-of-mouth you spread if they do it well will be worth more than any money you give them for the food.
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    It seems like we're arguing past each other here. Tony and others, you think it's an economic mistake for publications to pay low wages because the product will thus suffer and readers will notice and forgo reading any longer. The NYT piece argues that publications should pay because otherwise they are big meanie pants who should reward his prestigious degree and unenjoyable hard work. Just because.
     
  11. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    Just curious, how many here have been approached to write something for free?

    I don't get many freebie calls, but I have been approached to write for barely anything.

    It is infuriating.
     
  12. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    I've had people respond to a story query with a conditional acceptance: "Gee, that sounds like a great idea," then letting slip, "of course, we won't be able to pay."

    CLICK.
     
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