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NYPD turning its back on DeBlasio

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Dec 30, 2014.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

  2. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Cops are awful at PR. So ham-handed. The St. Louis PD was on display for this too when they said the Rams apologized, and the Rams said "uh, no we didn't."

    Now they aren't making arrests. A "slowdown." That'll learn 'em, don't do your job to show how valuable you are!
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    As bad as you might think the cops are at PR, De Blasio has been much worse at it since taking office -- not just with regard to the cops. He's a putz. I saw Bo Dietl calling him "Big Bird." It's pretty funny.

    What the cops are doing may be hamhanded and juvenile, but the cops are winning in the court of public approval from what I can see.

    There is an emergency meeting today in Queens between De Blasio and the heads of the five police unions. He really needs to do something to make some peace. I am not sure it is possible at this point, but hopefully the cops know that if they push the grudge too far it is going to backfire on them.
     
  4. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Cops are the new military. 'Muricans love 'em, go crazy for 'em.

    Mark my word: The police role in pregame ceremonies and so forth are going to increase exponentially in the next few months and years. We'll get to the point where police will be announced at games and get rousing standing ovations, like military members do now.
     
  5. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    I agree with Dick. Cops can do no wrong. Specially when they are wrong.
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Every cop will admit in the abstract that there are bad cops.

    No cop will acknowledge that the cop who shot Tamir Rice a second and a half after getting out of his car was a bad cop.
     
  7. ringer

    ringer Member

    Maybe it made a point this first time, but when the cops do it repeatedly it becomes a parody of itself. And to do it at a funeral is outrageously tacky and declasse. Besides, what are they pissed about? That Di Blasio said he had a chat with his half-black son about how to treat cops with caution because his son will be singled out because of his race? To be politically correct, he should have kept that on the down-low but isn't that clearly the world we live in?
     
  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Cops would never acknowledge that racial profiling exists. They still argue that they threw 41 shots at Amadou Diallo not because he was black but because his movements were too sudden. And no statistical breakdown or psychological study is going to move them off that point.

    De Blasio having some level of disagreement with them on that, therefore, amounted to being a traitor against the blue.
     
  9. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    De Blasio did absolutely nothing wrong. He campaigned on creating better relations between minority communities and the police and brought in Bratton to help make that happen. The union leader, Patrick Lynch, seems to be a real asshole. If the cops have hurt feelings, fuck 'em. There was and is a problem with the NYC police that needs to be corrected. The bigger underlying issue is that they're involved in contract negotiations.

    Ragu, Bo Dietl is a fucking moron. I'll take the other side of any argument in which he's involved.
     
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  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Bo Dietl is a moron. That is why it was funny. De Blasio was even being ridiculed by him, and Dietl, who usually struggles to sound coherent, had him pegged really well.

    And De Blasio has done little right in his first year. He campaigned on meaningless rhetoric -- some of it divisive. Few people were paying attention, so it largely got ignored. He got into office and immediately got smacked down by Andrew Cuomo over his school ideas, and since it's been one gaffe after another. He's struggled with the reality that being a successful mayor of NY means doing a lot of little, unsexy things -- kissing asses of interests you don't particularly care about, getting the snow plows out, keeping police / fire / sanitation happy with their contracts, keeping businesses from leaving for NJ, keeping the MTA working, finding a way to budget successfully when there isn't enough money. He doesn't seem to like the actual job. About all he's accomplished is being the protestor-in-chief. Which is a great job. It's just not what MOST people really want of the mayor.
     
  11. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    What exactly was "pegged well" about Bo Dietl's attempt to make fun of De Blasio's size? You don't like De Blasio because he's a progressive liberal. The fact is that he's had a very good first year, including making his most important campaign promise -- universal pre-K -- a reality. He's also gotten contracts done with more than half the city's workforce, including the teachers, something that Bloomberg wasn't interested in doing. He'll get a contract done with the police, too. I like that he's mixing it up with Cuomo who is a calculating, scheming phony who won't live up to his dad in 10 lifetimes.

    And along the way he's also made himself a national progressive leader, overshadowed only by Elizabeth Warren.
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2014
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    A great first year -- he's very close to getting that important ban on horse carriages in central park through. And he's forced some developers to subsidize "middle income" people with apartments (i.e. -- people earning $90K a year). . ... and he gave Al Sharpton a place on the podium. ... and he stood by mute as a mob of protestors shut down the Brooklyn Bridge. How progressive.
     
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