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NY Times: Special rules for special talents.

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. SixToe

    SixToe Well-Known Member

    Alma's right. Considering how vanilla of a "review" it was, there wouldn't have been much difference if she participated or just watched others having oil squeezed on their bodies from linen.

    The story came across as incredibly excessive even with all of Dowd's puffery about how the economic miasma is affecting everyone and would this spa be the right thing to do?
     
  2. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    I'd love to see the thinking behind Marriott's (or any other hotel's) program. Read a story a while back about how Harrah's pioneered casino loyalty programs, there was so much science and psychology involved it was creepy.

    Perhaps another difference between allowing a company to control points or an individual would be in the incentive to get to the top tiers. Marriott, for example, gives all its best perks to 50-nights-a-year folks. If a company booked 47 nights in a year, would they pay for a meaningless trip to bag the final three and get the top tier? Maybe not. But individuals do it all the time.
     
  3. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    There's a good reason why Marriott's is the most popular program . . . among the majors, Marriott delivers more for less than the rest. Loyalists receive tangible benefits, without roughing it. The chain delivers, without breaking the exchequer. Who can ask for
    anything more?
     
  4. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    Indeed, Ben. And bonus points for the word "exchequer."
     
  5. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Why? Because the fucking companies they work for are screwing them in every conceivable way. Shitty pay, shitty benefits, shitty vacation time, always a day away from being "furloughed".

    It's the only perk you get as a sportswriter. Hotel and airline points are just about the only way you can afford to take the spouse or family on a decent vacation at the end of the year to make up for the fact you're never fucking home.
     
  6. Joe Williams

    Joe Williams Well-Known Member

    Doesn't matter how Marriott doles out its points. Newspapers are never going to let copy editors take free trips on them. So get over it. ;D And stop rooting for colleagues to take unofficial-compensation haircuts.
     
  7. Pancamo

    Pancamo Active Member

    Agree 100%. Road trips are not vacations.
     
  8. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Stay home, then. Do something else.

    But this is the typical attitude of way too many sportswriters. <i> What about my annual fucking vacay to satiate my family? I <b> need </b> that</i>. No, you don't need it. You know how many Americans don't get vacations anywhere for years and years?

    Sportswriters and lenient editors need to take a hard look at themselves and their culpability in newspapers overspending on sports coverage for decades. No, it's not the driving force. But it takes a cumulative toll.
     
  9. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Bullshit.
     
  10. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Good answer.

    Hey - buy it or don't buy it. I've had the same argument with union members in my family, who insist that their 401k grow by leaps and bounds year after year, and they piss and moan about losing half of it when all they needed to do was reallocate the funds so it strayed away from the market.

    There comes a point when you've got to set aside everybody else's greed. A lot of people toiling under the "but I'm a <i>good</i> person" delusion struggle with that.
     
  11. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    I don't think *that* many sportswriters are hung up on points and miles to unhealthy levels. I'm among the masses whose Marriott accounts won't grow much this year, but so what? I'm thrilled just to have work.

    If we're talking about the hypothetical of losing them altogether while keeping long road schedules, yeah, it would stink. It's a nice fringe benefit of the job, no more and no less.
     
  12. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Probably not, but I just had a convo with an old colleague during bowl season who was miffed that media hotel - a perfectly functional establishment - didn't fit into his points plan.

    I told him, flat out, "good to see your heart's in the right place after your shop just got done with a round of layoffs."
     
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