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Noted Climate Experts Shoot Holes In Gore Movie

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Boom_70, Mar 15, 2007.

  1. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    From a Rapt Audience, a Call to Cool the Hype
    By WILLIAM J. BROAD
    Hollywood has a thing for Al Gore and his three-alarm film on global warming, “An Inconvenient Truth,” which won an Academy Award for best documentary. So do many environmentalists, who praise him as a visionary, and many scientists, who laud him for raising public awareness of climate change.

    But part of his scientific audience is uneasy. In talks, articles and blog entries that have appeared since his film and accompanying book came out last year, these scientists argue that some of Mr. Gore’s central points are exaggerated and erroneous. They are alarmed, some say, at what they call his alarmism.

    “I don’t want to pick on Al Gore,” Don J. Easterbrook, an emeritus professor of geology at Western Washington University, told hundreds of experts at the annual meeting of the Geological Society of America. “But there are a lot of inaccuracies in the statements we are seeing, and we have to temper that with real data.”

    Mr. Gore, in an e-mail exchange about the critics, said his work made “the most important and salient points” about climate change, if not “some nuances and distinctions” scientists might want. “The degree of scientific consensus on global warming has never been stronger,” he said, adding, “I am trying to communicate the essence of it in the lay language that I understand.”

    Although Mr. Gore is not a scientist, he does rely heavily on the authority of science in “An Inconvenient Truth,” which is why scientists are sensitive to its details and claims.

    Criticisms of Mr. Gore have come not only from conservative groups and prominent skeptics of catastrophic warming, but also from rank-and-file scientists like Dr. Easterbook, who told his peers that he had no political ax to grind. A few see natural variation as more central to global warming than heat-trapping gases. Many appear to occupy a middle ground in the climate debate, seeing human activity as a serious threat but challenging what they call the extremism of both skeptics and zealots.

    Kevin Vranes, a climatologist at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the University of Colorado, said he sensed a growing backlash against exaggeration. While praising Mr. Gore for “getting the message out,” Dr. Vranes questioned whether his presentations were “overselling our certainty about knowing the future.”

    Typically, the concern is not over the existence of climate change, or the idea that the human production of heat-trapping gases is partly or largely to blame for the globe’s recent warming. The question is whether Mr. Gore has gone beyond the scientific evidence.

    “He’s a very polarizing figure in the science community,” said Roger A. Pielke Jr., an environmental scientist who is a colleague of Dr. Vranes at the University of Colorado center. “Very quickly, these discussions turn from the issue to the person, and become a referendum on Mr. Gore.”

    “An Inconvenient Truth,” directed by Davis Guggenheim, was released last May and took in more than $46 million, making it one of the top-grossing documentaries ever. The companion book by Mr. Gore quickly became a best seller, reaching No. 1 on the New York Times list.

    Mr. Gore depicted a future in which temperatures soar, ice sheets melt, seas rise, hurricanes batter the coasts and people die en masse. “Unless we act boldly,” he wrote, “our world will undergo a string of terrible catastrophes.”

    He clearly has supporters among leading scientists, who commend his popularizations and call his science basically sound. In December, he spoke in San Francisco to the American Geophysical Union and got a reception fit for a rock star from thousands of attendees.

    “He has credibility in this community,” said Tim Killeen, the group’s president and director of the National Center for Atmospheric Research, a top group studying climate change. “There’s no question he’s read a lot and is able to respond in a very effective way.”

    Some backers concede minor inaccuracies but see them as reasonable for a politician. James E. Hansen, an environmental scientist, director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies and a top adviser to Mr. Gore, said, “Al does an exceptionally good job of seeing the forest for the trees,” adding that Mr. Gore often did so “better than scientists.”

    Still, Dr. Hansen said, the former vice president’s work may hold “imperfections” and “technical flaws.” He pointed to hurricanes, an icon for Mr. Gore, who highlights the devastation of Hurricane Katrina and cites research suggesting that global warming will cause both storm frequency and deadliness to rise. Yet this past Atlantic season produced fewer hurricanes than forecasters predicted (five versus nine), and none that hit the United States.

    “We need to be more careful in describing the hurricane story than he is,” Dr. Hansen said of Mr. Gore. “On the other hand,” Dr. Hansen said, “he has the bottom line right: most storms, at least those driven by the latent heat of vaporization, will tend to be stronger, or have the potential to be stronger, in a warmer climate.”
     
  2. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    That reads like someone working awfully hard to get people to bash the film, and not succeeding.
     
  3. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    I was not aware that we are in the company of 2 esteemed geologists in Zeke and Buckweaver
     
  4. Zeemer

    Zeemer Member

    Yes, because all the really esteemed experts in every field of scientific endeavor work at Western Washington University.
     
  5. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    You can take that kind of toolish attitude, if you want, but there's nothing in the story which indicates "holes" were shot in Gore's story. It sounds more like scientists quibbling over the tweaking of certain numbers, but they don't actually call into question the legitimacy of Gore's basic claims.
     
  6. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    I've got some skills.

    BTW, where did that come from, oh master of teh Google?
     
  7. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    I agree with zeke and buck, boom.

    And, seriously, even if you are not 100 percent sure how much man is adding to the problem, why not encourage at least sensible and modest steps to limit greenhouse gasses?
     
  8. Lugnuts

    Lugnuts Well-Known Member

    Well, I'd say Boom's butt's been handed to him pretty good on this thread. ;D

    I applaud the effort, though, Boom.
     
  9. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Well-Known Member

    Noted SportsJournalists.com Posters Shoot Holes in Boom Butt; Lugnuts Applauds Both Sides.
     
  10. Mmac

    Mmac Guest

    I agree that "shoot holes" is a b.s. description, nobody in the article actually disagreed with Gore's basic position on global warming existing and being a serious problem. At worst, it suggests there's been some exaggeration.
     
  11. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    C'mon, they're drilling him:

    He clearly has supporters among leading scientists, who commend his popularizations and call his science basically sound. In December, he spoke in San Francisco to the American Geophysical Union and got a reception fit for a rock star from thousands of attendees.

    “He has credibility in this community,” said Tim Killeen, the group’s president and director of the National Center for Atmospheric Research, a top group studying climate change. “There’s no question he’s read a lot and is able to respond in a very effective way.”

    Some backers concede minor inaccuracies but see them as reasonable for a politician. James E. Hansen, an environmental scientist, director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies and a top adviser to Mr. Gore, said, “Al does an exceptionally good job of seeing the forest for the trees,” adding that Mr. Gore often did so “better than scientists.”
     
  12. CaymanGuy

    CaymanGuy Member

    Global warming is a fad. Like the horseless carriage and color television.
     
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