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North Korea tentatively agrees to disarm. Congrats Bush & Rice!!

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by John D. Villarreal, Feb 12, 2007.

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How much credit do you give Bush Admin for this victory?

  1. Most of the credit

    8 vote(s)
    23.5%
  2. A lot of the credit

    4 vote(s)
    11.8%
  3. Some of the credit

    11 vote(s)
    32.4%
  4. No credit

    11 vote(s)
    32.4%
  1. beefncheddar

    beefncheddar Guest

    Better alternative than what's currently going on in Iraq? Sure.
    If that's not damning with faint praise, then I don't know what is.
     
  2. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    You liberals amaze me. It appears we may be on the way to having some kind of peace with North Korea and you still find a way to find fault.

    Bush was clear in his 2001 State of Union that the fight would not be easy.
     
  3. Boom --
    Except that his administration kept backing away from multilateral talks every time they wanted to look tough and now, because they need some success in foreign policy somewhere, they accept a Chinese-brokered deal that they spit at five years ago and that was "appeasement" and "blackmail" when the Clinton people tried it.
    That's worthy of comment, which is not to say I'm not happy if this deal works which, no matter who negotiated it and why, depends completely on the whims of a crazy person.
     
  4. beefncheddar

    beefncheddar Guest

    Well, Boom, I'm as Republican as it gets ...

    And there's NO "dealing" with North Korea. Just giving them what they want until they decide to pull the same shit again in a few days/weeks/months/years.
     
  5. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    So should we just drop a nuke on them and forget about it instead?
     
  6. beefncheddar

    beefncheddar Guest

    I'll say what anyone and everyone here who is being honest SHOULD say:

    I don't have the slightest fucking idea what to do with North Korea.

    I just don't see how you can "deal" with Kim Jong Il. The guy is straight-up batshit crazy. I'm not sure this can be overstated.
     
  7. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Sadly, this game is going to be repeated. These guys are getting $300 million worth of oil with a promise of another $8.5 billion worth of electricity over 10 years upon the completion of denuclearization, which is a word that I believe was made up yesterday for this announcement. Didn't it used to be nuclear disarmament? Anyway, I figure the North Koreans will want to renegotiate about two years before their South Korean electricity stops flowing.
     
  8. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    I'm pretty much with you, Meat.

    And I'm not against giving them energy assistance if it even slows down the processes.

    Lil Kim can't live forever. The next guy can't be any worse. That's the best we've got.
     
  9. The difference, of course, is that they have nukes now and didn;t have them seven years ago.
     
  10. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    What proof do you have of that?
     
  11. http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/10/09/korea.nuclear.test/index.html

    They have them. They're just not very good ones.
    Which as more than -- cough, cough -- Saddam ever had.
     
  12. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    Didn't they say the same thing about Kim Il Sun?
     
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