North Dakota to vote on abolishing property tax

Stitch · Jun 12, 2012

Inky_Wretch said:

Michael_ Gee said:

Zag, the point of this dispute is that North Dakota's governments are not broke. It's just that one of them, the state, is running an enormous surplus from energy revenue, and the local governments want a share, or rather, a group of voters wants to force it to share through this ballot initiative. No political entity in human history has ever managed an energy revenue windfall very well. Why should we expect North Dakota, where pheasant hunting rules were the hot political issue until about four years ago, to do so?
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So they want to redistribute the state's wealth? Sounds socialist to me.
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North Dakota is pretty socialist to begin with. Pharmacists have to own at least 51 percent of a pharmacy, which is why Walmart doesn't have pharmacies in the state, big box retailers can't open until noon on Sunday, and there is a state bank and a state grain elevator.

I'd like to see an exit poll showing the correlation between voting to abolish property taxes and supporting the Fighting Sioux nickname referendum.

Inky_Wretch · Jun 12, 2012

Stitch said:

Inky_Wretch said:

Michael_ Gee said:

Zag, the point of this dispute is that North Dakota's governments are not broke. It's just that one of them, the state, is running an enormous surplus from energy revenue, and the local governments want a share, or rather, a group of voters wants to force it to share through this ballot initiative. No political entity in human history has ever managed an energy revenue windfall very well. Why should we expect North Dakota, where pheasant hunting rules were the hot political issue until about four years ago, to do so?
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So they want to redistribute the state's wealth? Sounds socialist to me.
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North Dakota is pretty socialist to begin with. Pharmacists have to own at least 51 percent of a pharmacy, which is why Walmart doesn't have pharmacies in the state, big box retailers can't open until noon on Sunday, and there is a state bank and a state grain elevator.

I'd like to see an exit poll showing the correlation between voting to abolish property taxes and supporting the Fighting Sioux nickname referendum.
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Interestingly, the state's Chamber of Commerce and most of the state's GOP have come out against the property tax measure.

Bob Cook · Jun 12, 2012

nmmetsfan said:

Michael_ Gee said:

Zag, the point of this dispute is that North Dakota's governments are not broke. It's just that one of them, the state, is running an enormous surplus from energy revenue, and the local governments want a share, or rather, a group of voters wants to force it to share through this ballot initiative. No political entity in human history has ever managed an energy revenue windfall very well. Why should we expect North Dakota, where pheasant hunting rules were the hot political issue until about four years ago, to do so?
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Can't expect those redneck pheasant hunters to do anything right. If only the civilized big city folk could do it for them.
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So perhaps North Dakota will be the sort of poorly run, oil-rich state that will make it America's Nigeria. Soon we'll be getting emails from Prince Lars Svenson saying he'd like to share his wealth with us in exchange for our bank account numbers.

I Should Coco · Jun 12, 2012

Inky_Wretch said:

Stitch said:

Inky_Wretch said:

Michael_ Gee said:

Zag, the point of this dispute is that North Dakota's governments are not broke. It's just that one of them, the state, is running an enormous surplus from energy revenue, and the local governments want a share, or rather, a group of voters wants to force it to share through this ballot initiative. No political entity in human history has ever managed an energy revenue windfall very well. Why should we expect North Dakota, where pheasant hunting rules were the hot political issue until about four years ago, to do so?
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So they want to redistribute the state's wealth? Sounds socialist to me.
Click to expand...

North Dakota is pretty socialist to begin with. Pharmacists have to own at least 51 percent of a pharmacy, which is why Walmart doesn't have pharmacies in the state, big box retailers can't open until noon on Sunday, and there is a state bank and a state grain elevator.

I'd like to see an exit poll showing the correlation between voting to abolish property taxes and supporting the Fighting Sioux nickname referendum.
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Interestingly, the state's Chamber of Commerce and most of the state's GOP have come out against the property tax measure.
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Yet another showdown between old-school, Chamber of Commerce GOPers and destroy-the-government Tea Partiers.

Hard to find a rooting interest. It's like when the Yankees play the Red Sox!

nmmetsfan · Jun 12, 2012

Bob Cook said:

nmmetsfan said:

Michael_ Gee said:

Zag, the point of this dispute is that North Dakota's governments are not broke. It's just that one of them, the state, is running an enormous surplus from energy revenue, and the local governments want a share, or rather, a group of voters wants to force it to share through this ballot initiative. No political entity in human history has ever managed an energy revenue windfall very well. Why should we expect North Dakota, where pheasant hunting rules were the hot political issue until about four years ago, to do so?
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Can't expect those redneck pheasant hunters to do anything right. If only the civilized big city folk could do it for them.
Click to expand...

So perhaps North Dakota will be the sort of poorly run, oil-rich state that will make it America's Nigeria. Soon we'll be getting emails from Prince Lars Svenson saying he'd like to share his wealth with us in exchange for our bank account numbers.
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Maybe they can follow the Illinois model

Armchair_QB · Jun 12, 2012

Bob Cook said:

nmmetsfan said:

Michael_ Gee said:

Zag, the point of this dispute is that North Dakota's governments are not broke. It's just that one of them, the state, is running an enormous surplus from energy revenue, and the local governments want a share, or rather, a group of voters wants to force it to share through this ballot initiative. No political entity in human history has ever managed an energy revenue windfall very well. Why should we expect North Dakota, where pheasant hunting rules were the hot political issue until about four years ago, to do so?
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Can't expect those redneck pheasant hunters to do anything right. If only the civilized big city folk could do it for them.
Click to expand...

So perhaps North Dakota will be the sort of poorly run, oil-rich state that will make it America's Nigeria. Soon we'll be getting emails from Prince Lars Svenson saying he'd like to share his wealth with us in exchange for our bank account numbers.
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It'll be America's Nigeria with nukes.

Stitch · Jun 12, 2012

North Dakota voters overwhelmingly reject the ballot measure with 77 percent of voters choosing no.

In other news, the Sioux nickname won't be kept with 67 percent approving of the state's decision to change the nickname.

http://results.sos.nd.gov/resultsSW.aspx?text=BQ&type=SW&map=CTY

MileHigh · Jun 12, 2012

So ... much ado about nothing.

poindexter · Jun 13, 2012

hahaha.

Next tax debate, please.

KJIM · Jun 13, 2012

Football_Bat said:

Any step that ultimately results in the recombining of the Dakotas is OK by me.
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Why? I don't know the history there. What would be the outcome of combining the two states?

TrooperBari · Jun 13, 2012

KJIM said:

Football_Bat said:

Any step that ultimately results in the recombining of the Dakotas is OK by me.
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Why? I don't know the history there. What would be the outcome of combining the two states?
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Making Puerto Rico a state. Can you imagine what a hassle it would be updating all those flags and flag-adorned merchandise?

Michael_ Gee · Jun 13, 2012

KJIM, the Dakotas were made two states when they had originally been one territory (remember "Deadwood"?) because the Northern states, at the time dominated by the Republican party, were determined never to let the states of the former Confederacy have potential dominance of the U.S. Congress through their then-dominance of the Democratic party.
As someone who grew up in Delaware, I can hardly argue that some other state shouldn't exist.

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