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No, you solicited me!

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by deskslave, Sep 18, 2007.

  1. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Hot diggity!
     
  2. Captain_Kirk

    Captain_Kirk Well-Known Member

    I'm shocked.

    I really thought Ace was much older than 11.
     
  3. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    UPDATE:

    It turns out the Dallas prosecutor who offed himself really did have child porn on his PC.




    DALLAS — Authorities found child pornography among the possessions of a prosecutor who fatally shot himself last year when police arrived at his home as part a sting arranged by "Dateline NBC: To Catch A Predator," according to a state report.

    When they knocked on the door of his Terrell home last November, police planned to arrest Louis "Bill" Conradt Jr., 57, on a warrant accusing him of soliciting sex from a minor. They said Conradt, the former Kaufman County district attorney, had online sexual chats with an adult who pretended to be a 13-year-old boy.

    Conradt was targeted in a sting arranged "Dateline" and the activist group Perverted Justice, which supplied adults who trolled Internet chat rooms, posing as underage boys and girls and trying to collect incriminating sex talk.

    The program set up shop for four days last November in a two-story home in Collin County, where 24 men were arrested after being accused of arranging to meet boys or girls there.

    When Conradt didn't show up for a meeting, police went to his home with arrest and search warrants, accompanied by a "Dateline" camera crew.

    The state investigation into Conradt's death found evidence of the online graphic chats, according to a Texas Department of Public Safety report released to The Dallas Morning News. The chat logs covered topics such as sex, erections and masturbation, according to the investigation.

    Also, three laptops, a cell phone and several computer disks found in the home "all contained pornographic material (and) some included child pornography," according to the state's investigation.

    The Texas Department of Public Safety asked the state attorney general to allow it to withhold some of the report's contents because it "contains images the Department believes may constitute child pornography."

    The attorney general's office granted the request, saying: "The submitted documents consist of photographs of unidentified males who generally appear to be juveniles."

    Conradt's sister, Patricia Conradt, has sued NBC Universal Inc. for $105 million, accusing it of taking over police duties and then failing to protect her brother. She said NBC was "concerned more with its own profits than with pedophilia."

    NBC Universal has said it will defend itself vigorously and believes the lawsuit has no merit. Its motion to dismiss the case is pending.

    Buck Wood, Patricia Conradt's husband, said Monday that investigators told him the suspect photos may not be child pornography.

    "There was some pornography on there with persons that you could not ascertain whether they were underage or not," said Wood, an attorney who is advising his wife in the civil suit.

    "It's certainly something that you couldn't prosecute on, and I would assume (Conradt) wouldn't have thought it was child pornography."

    Wood said the alleged pornography would have no effect on the lawsuit against NBC.
     
  4. "contains images the Department believes may constitute child pornography."

    May?
    At this point, where we're issuing statements, you don't know?
     
  5. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Jeez, this is so old, I should probably go back through this to respond properly.

    Sorry, the intent was to molest a child. The fact that the person failed doesn't mitigate that. If somebody tried to steal something but failed, should they be let off the hook? If somebody tried to be a terrorist but fucked it up, is that ok?

    Sorry. Bullshit. Put the fuckers behind bars.
     
  6. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    You are incorrect. I can't imagine a more popular opinion on SportsJournalists.com.
     
  7. Big Buckin' agate_monkey

    Big Buckin' agate_monkey Active Member

    So ... what are you wearing Ace? And do you mind if I bring a cat?
     
  8. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Dockers and a sweater vest and loaf.... er... I mean some lacy unmentionables.

    Sure, bring the kitty.
     
  9. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    You're right. The simple fact that they failed doesn't mitigate the fact that they were trying to molest minors. The problem I have is that, according to the original article, if the police had used the tactics Perverted Justice used, the case would be thrown out, but since it wasn't a law enforcement agency that did it, it is legal. That makes zero sense.

    The laws are written both to protect the innocent and punish the guilty. They are written in such a manner as to prevent jailing innocent people while protecting society from criminals. The way Perverted Justice is going about it circumvents those laws.

    The key sentence: "If law enforcement officers lured people to try to commit crimes in the same way the TV show does, defendants could use a defense of entrapment, because the law prohibits authorities from soliciting people to commit crimes, Gerrard said.

    But since Perverted Justice isn't working on behalf of law enforcement, White can't use that entrapment defense, Gerrard said."

    Law enforcement agencies should be vigilant against child molesters and child pornographers. They should follow the laws to catch those who break the law, or in this case attempt to break the law. They should not use some private group to circumvent the law all so that said group can help spike ratings for a TV station and make millions of dollars (and you're kidding yourself if you think this anything other than a money grab for both PJ and NBC).

    Believe me, I have no sympathy for these scumbags. I'd just rather see them caught within the bounds of the law.
     
  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    How many scumbags get off on technicalities?

    This time, the technicality is working against the scumbag. You want to let these guys off on technicalities? You do realize how likely they are to try again? They aren't going to stop if they get away with it. They are going to try again, and this time they are going to be more careful and somebody's little boy or girl will get hurt. Does that sound better to you?
     
  11. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    There isn't a single reprobate you won't cuddle up to.
     
  12. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Exceptin' yourself, of course.
     
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