No one tells Tiger what to do

Pancamo · Dec 23, 2011

Feinstein comes across as bad as Tiger. Switch out the names and it describes Feinstein. He is the smartest person and the arbiter of what is right and wrong in sports.

hondo · Dec 24, 2011

rmanfredi said:

21 said:

Realizing it's just an excerpt, but is this about Tiger or Feinstein's annoyance that they never became buddies? Doesn't seem particularly stunning that the Woods crew wasn't cooperative with media.
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I think the excerpt speaks to the sense of entitlement that Tiger Woods has had from a very young age, and how no one ever really called him on it. Going back to how he acted before he won his first US Amateur on, if a kid is treated like royalty and that he can do what he wants when he wants with no repercussions, what kind of treatment is going going to expect one he becomes the biggest sports icon on the planet?
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Tiger hasn't been great with the media but Junior's latest stuff just reeks of a vendetta because he was never in Tiger's inner circle. Hardly anyone was. John needs to get over himself.

Mizzougrad96 · Dec 24, 2011

hondo said:

rmanfredi said:

21 said:

Realizing it's just an excerpt, but is this about Tiger or Feinstein's annoyance that they never became buddies? Doesn't seem particularly stunning that the Woods crew wasn't cooperative with media.
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I think the excerpt speaks to the sense of entitlement that Tiger Woods has had from a very young age, and how no one ever really called him on it. Going back to how he acted before he won his first US Amateur on, if a kid is treated like royalty and that he can do what he wants when he wants with no repercussions, what kind of treatment is going going to expect one he becomes the biggest sports icon on the planet?
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Tiger hasn't been great with the media but Junior's latest stuff just reeks of a vendetta because he was never in Tiger's inner circle. Hardly anyone was. John needs to get over himself.
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I tend to agree. As I said before. I can't wait to read it.

SockPuppet · Dec 24, 2011

No one tells Tiger what to do ... except John Feinstein. Apparently, Mr. Brink is upset that Tiger and his camp doesn't follow Mr. Brink's advice.

When I finished reading the excerpt I thought it gave more insight to Feinstein's current Ego Level than it did in illuminating anything about Woods. But that's what can be expected when The Big Time Writer doesn't get the access he's used to. If the subject won't agree to be interviewed, then write about THAT. Someone need to count the number of personal references Feinstein makes in the excerpt. Feinstein has become Bob Knight without the cuss words.

"I think the excerpt speaks to the sense of entitlement that John Feinstein has had from a very young age, and how no one ever really called him on it."

Chef2 · Jan 1, 2015

JackReacher said:

Feinstein has been on the radio the last couple weeks pushing his book, at least here in the DC market. He's no doubt a great writer, but christ. Dude's ego is out of control. Yeah, we get it, John. You have had better access than anyone in the history of journalism. YOU SET THE STANDARD, SIR!!! We heard you the 834,383,019,346,653rd time you told us.

And he's NEVER backed away from an opportunity to tell you just how much of an asshole Tiger Woods is.

I bet Feinstein has trouble finding hats that fit.
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His head couldn't fit under a fucking umbrella.

franklin lincoln · Jan 1, 2015

Chef2 said:

JackReacher said:

Feinstein has been on the radio the last couple weeks pushing his book, at least here in the DC market. He's no doubt a great writer, but christ. Dude's ego is out of control. Yeah, we get it, John. You have had better access than anyone in the history of journalism. YOU SET THE STANDARD, SIR!!! We heard you the 834,383,019,346,653rd time you told us.

And he's NEVER backed away from an opportunity to tell you just how much of an asshole Tiger Woods is.

I bet Feinstein has trouble finding hats that fit.
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His head couldn't fit under a fucking umbrella.
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On Morning Joe, Feinstein said that he believed Tiger and his camp "picked out" Feinstein as a writer they particularly didn't like because he was unwilling to follow Tiger's ground rules.

Raiders · Dec 24, 2011

"He does seem awfully full of himself," Lupica said from the seat he grabbed in the front row.

Ben_Hecht · Dec 24, 2011

trifectarich said:

novelist_wannabe said:

When a writer observes an athlete and says "who the hell does he think he is?", I'm prone to wonder the same thing about the writer. I don't care if he was covering golf for the Times of London when St. Andrews was founded, he simply doesn't have the right to ask that question.
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I disagree. I don't know how much time Feinstein spent covering Palmer and Nicklaus in their prime (probably not too much), but both were considered the epitome of class. Then Tiger came along and was insufferable before he earned his first dollar. A lot of writers asked the question, if not publicly, at least amongst themselves.
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Nicklaus wasn't classy on a consistent basis for a significant period, early on. Fat Jack could be -- and was -- a pain in the ass.

hondo · Dec 25, 2011

Ben_Hecht said:

trifectarich said:

novelist_wannabe said:

When a writer observes an athlete and says "who the hell does he think he is?", I'm prone to wonder the same thing about the writer. I don't care if he was covering golf for the Times of London when St. Andrews was founded, he simply doesn't have the right to ask that question.
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I disagree. I don't know how much time Feinstein spent covering Palmer and Nicklaus in their prime (probably not too much), but both were considered the epitome of class. Then Tiger came along and was insufferable before he earned his first dollar. A lot of writers asked the question, if not publicly, at least amongst themselves.
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Nicklaus wasn't classy on a consistent basis for a significant period, early on. Fat Jack could be -- and was -- a pain in the ass.
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But Jack almost always talked to the media and almost always had something interesting to say ... if for nothing else, to make sure his side of a story got told.

Bulldog Smoltz · Dec 25, 2011

SockPuppet said:

No one tells Tiger what to do ... except John Feinstein. Apparently, Mr. Brink is upset that Tiger and his camp doesn't follow Mr. Brink's advice.

When I finished reading the excerpt I thought it gave more insight to Feinstein's current Ego Level than it did in illuminating anything about Woods. But that's what can be expected when The Big Time Writer doesn't get the access he's used to. If the subject won't agree to be interviewed, then write about THAT. Someone need to count the number of personal references Feinstein makes in the excerpt. Feinstein has become Bob Knight without the cuss words.

"I think the excerpt speaks to the sense of entitlement that John Feinstein has had from a very young age, and how no one ever really called him on it."
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+1

Ben_Hecht · Dec 25, 2011

hondo said:

Ben_Hecht said:

trifectarich said:

novelist_wannabe said:

When a writer observes an athlete and says "who the hell does he think he is?", I'm prone to wonder the same thing about the writer. I don't care if he was covering golf for the Times of London when St. Andrews was founded, he simply doesn't have the right to ask that question.
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I disagree. I don't know how much time Feinstein spent covering Palmer and Nicklaus in their prime (probably not too much), but both were considered the epitome of class. Then Tiger came along and was insufferable before he earned his first dollar. A lot of writers asked the question, if not publicly, at least amongst themselves.
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Nicklaus wasn't classy on a consistent basis for a significant period, early on. Fat Jack could be -- and was -- a pain in the ass.
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But Jack almost always talked to the media and almost always had something interesting to say ... if for nothing else, to make sure his side of a story got told.
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True. He didn't stiff the gathering throng.

Webster · Dec 25, 2011

He got a four hour sit down to talk about their issues, which seems mostly about how Tiger respects him. Junior puts out a book ripping into his father and he is upset that Tiger doesn't want to kiss his ring? Maybe if Tiger played in the Patriot League, Junior would like him more.

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