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No longer ALLOWED to jump

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Wonderlic, Jan 26, 2009.

  1. Wonderlic

    Wonderlic Member

    So there's a bit on the APSE site about how various sports sections are dealing with shrinking news hole:


    This quote caught my eye:

    Seriously? No longer ALLOWED to jump? What the eff is going on here anymore!?!

    This heavy-handed, poorly thought out policy leads to atrocious front page designs, little to no depth in reporting and ultimately an increase in canceled subscriptions. I know because my paper, unfortunately, also attempted this "experiment."

    If only we could force the corporate suits to stop jumping...

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  2. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Active Member

    And yet, I'll bet their Web site features stories that "jump" from Page 1 to Page 2 (and beyond, at times) to increase the number of page views/clicks.
  3. Mark2010

    Mark2010 Active Member

    Hahaha!! This isn't all that new. About six years ago, I had an SE (came in after I was already there) who tried a no-jump rule, along with a few other radical ideas.

    The effect was we cut about every story to about 10-12 inches. I pretty much gave up coming up with feature ideas.

    Now, there have been plenty of times when I didn't have any jumps off the cover simply because I had virtually no inside jump space. But I fight against having hard and fast rules like that.
  4. GlenQuagmire

    GlenQuagmire Active Member

    Newspaper executives: pissing on their readers in a regular basis.

    "See we gave you what you wanted. Fewer and shorter stories. Thinner sections. Less overall coverage- national and local. And higher prices! Yes, we listened to what you wanted and delivered."

    Heard of a shop back in the day that never allowed any stories longer than 12 inches. Ever. Only two jumps allowed in each section.

    Features had three "bullet" subheads. No subsection longer than three graphs. Mostly one-source stories.

    Idea lasted about two weeks until readers demanded a change. Somehow they got the section to go back to normal.
  5. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I don't read the print product much anymore. And when I do, I find it thoroughly lacking. Lead, Quote, Context, End quote just isn't a story. Right now I see all newspapers print product a strange and uncomfortable hybrid of Web writing and old school news writing. They'd be better off just putting a nice pretty picture on the front, with linescores of games followed with a nuggetoid(When it was over, What it means, What's Next and a quote).
  6. Alternative story forms?
    Is that even a fucking word?
    Jesus wept.
  7. Rhody31

    Rhody31 Well-Known Member

    We tried to write short, boring stories for our paper's Web site (we're a weekly) immediately, teasing full coverage for the paper that week.
    Are we at the point where dailies are going to do the opposite?

    'for an in-depth look at this game log on to www.ournewspapersucks.com?
  8. I Digress

    I Digress Guest

    The paper I string for is pretty much a 10-12 inch shop....No matter how much I re-read the things I write and rework sentences, when I see it in the paper it's always reads so choppy. Freaking hate it, but c'est la vie.
  9. SixToe

    SixToe Active Member

    We had an editor who tried the "no jump" idea. Everyone pretty much ignored him.

    Six pages, eight-paragraph stories and increasing the cost of the paper is not the way to attract or keep readers.
  10. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    Blanket rules are stupid rules. And, it really screams to your writers... YOU BLOW CHUNKS.

    Never any takeout pieces out front. NEVER.

    Our shit's fucked up.
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  11. Some Guy

    Some Guy Active Member

    We've been big on charticles for several years now. It's all the rage!
  12. ServeItUp

    ServeItUp Active Member

    My last editor, loved working for him but damn, if he wouldn't get wood when we had two or more stories (on a four- or five-story front) that didn't jump. He wanted at least one non-jumping story a day out front.

    Fenian, I'm told Van McKenzie pioneered the "charticle" when he was at the Orlando Sentinel. Just another word for "really big breakout." Some things work well that way, like game advances, game stories and some trend pieces. Features, takeouts -- leave those alone and give me something to read. Please.
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