No Carter thread?

What I meant.

No one suggested that he is not permitted to speak his mind or should be prosecuted for it. I assume that the criticism of the WH for responding didn't mean to do that either, or to otherwise infringe on their first amendment rights. Protocol means unwritten, unenforced rules of etiquitte. That is where this entire discussion is taking place, so enough of this 1st amendment martyrdom nonsense.

Ironically true & relevant, & has been for 25 years.

 

I'll take that bet.

 

Gerald Ford's criticism became known only when he died. I'm glad Carter decided to speak up now.

 

I'm sure you and the rest of the 27 percent who approve of the way the Bush administration would feel that way. There are still people who defend Hitler, too.

 

As a matter of fact, I'm in the majority of those who disapprove, though I'm guessing we have different reasons.

I don't remember you as being a jerk, does he just bring out the worst in you, or was I not paying attention?

 

Uh, oh, here comes the Hitler talk...

 

I think it's good that Carter is speaking his mind, etiquette and protocol be damned. This current administration has done a good job in making people think that if they're criticizing the prez, they're anti-American, as some of you have pointed out. As Tony Soprano said last night, "Let's stop ignoring the fuckin' 500-lbs elephant in the room.' (Hilariously under-rated line in this last episode) Bush and his band of liars and theives have been the worst people to run this country in the last 100+ years.

I'm too young to remember Carter's presidency, but since he lasted only one term, I'm guessing it wasn't too grand. But the work he has done since then is beyond remarkable. If any ex-prez should be allowed to publicly criticize Gee-Dumb, it should be Carter.

 

Hitler was good when he came into power, he just got a little carried away. [/margeschott]

 

So, see, the Hitler talk is all wrong for W. When has he ever been good?

 

Yes, George W. Bush brings out the very worst in me. I consider him (along with Cheney, Wolfowitz and the rest of the architects of this national disgrace) a war criminal responsible for the needless deaths of thousands of innocent people. I also consider the so-called neo-conservatives the biggest cowards in the history of our country, so fearful of what might happen that they create lies to start preemptive wars and repeatedly take steps to curtail the freedoms upon which our country was built.

I also disapprove of his not-so-conservative fiscal policy, too. Maybe that's where we agree?

 

Here's why it's a smart move by Snow/Bush in the never ending battle of spin.

Carter is a name which leads to a knee jerk negative reaction by many (probably most) Republicans, even those who have deserted W. So any criticism of Carter will be looked on positively by these people.

 

Excuse me?
Camp David accords?
Help to the Afghans? (Blowback on that one, alas.)
And he froze the Iranian assets when the embassy fell. It was Reagan who gave into the blackmail.
Carter was a lot of bad things, but his diplomacy wasn't one of them.