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Nice try, Netflix

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by CD Boogie, Jan 15, 2019.

  1. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

  2. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    Will my Betamax by mail subscription still be grandfathered in, though?
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    That headline isn't quite right.

    Costs rising?

    Netflix has been a cash incinerating machine the last several years. The company burned through more than $3 billion in borrowed money last year, at junk bond interest rates, to be a content creator on a large scale. It has plans to burn through that much or more this year, in an environment in which junk bond issuance has dried up, making it much harder to borrow heavily to the tune of billions of dollars the way Netflix has been able to for the last 3, 4 years.

    When you have $9 billion in accumulated debt, and you have locked yourself into obligations to spend another $18 billion or so over the next five years, and you don't generate enough money to actually support that level of spending, your problem isn't that costs have gone up. It's that you were living in la la land all along. It's not a coincidence that "costs rising" only became a problem when the credit markets tightened and there was no market out there for more junk bond issuance.
     
  4. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Jesus, you can't make a buck in this market. The country's going to hell faster than when that son of a bitch Roosevelt was in charge. Too much cheap money sloshing around the world. The worst mistake we ever made was letting Nixon get off the gold standard.
     
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  5. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    All that money spent on creating content and I'm still more likely to just watch Cool Hand Luke or The Big Lebowski again.
     
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  6. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    You're doing yourself a disservice then. There's a ton of good, original content on Netflix. Some real shit, too, but a lot of good.
     
  7. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    Their movie selection blows.
     
  8. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    Oh, I know. There's just so darned much of it, I'll spend 20 minutes filling my saved queue and then give up. I'd have to quit my job, quit sleeping and quit watching live sports just to make a dent. Plus it's so darned hard to find a show my wife and I agree on ... and right now that's "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel," which isn't Netflix.
     
  9. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    And still NBC CBS and ABC fail to produce competitive quality content. Maybe they’ll reboot Mannix and Barnaby Jones. Recast with a Hispanic Woman and Asian man.
     
  10. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    I don't even know how to respond to someone claiming there's no quality content on network television.
     
  11. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Does this goddamn board still listen to this crazy fucker about economics? Here's what the real world is saying, that part of the world that hasn't carried a nihilist boner for 10 years now.

    Here's how Goldman Sachs is playing earnings season: Buy Netflix, sell Tesla

    Goldman Sachs is seeing an 18 percent gain for Netflix over the next 12 months, joining a chorus of bullish commentary from Wall Streeton the video streaming giant. Shares of Netflix have gained more than 26 percent in the new year.

    Netflix Flexes Its Pricing Power -- The Motley Fool

    The willingness to roll out another price increase not long after its increase in 2017 reflects management's confidence in its pricing power. Pricing power, of course, is an invaluable asset for Netflix as the company aims to keep spending aggressively on content while growing revenue and operating profits.

    Netflix Q4 Earnings Preview

    In terms of the upcoming results, the group has given the following guidance as what we can expect for Q4:
    • Increase in paid net additions of 7.6m (+15% year on year)
    • Increase in total net additions of 9.4m (+13% year on year)
    • Q4 operating margin to be in a range of between 5% and 7.5% year on year
    • Full year operating margin to be between the 10% and 11% range in 2018
     
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  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I'll guess that demand is more than a little elastic for a Netflix subscription. Maybe not to the point that you get massive numbers of people letting their subscriptions go for the extra buck or two at the current level. I will actually guess that a lot of people will give up a lot of other things before letting go of their Netflix subscription. They have people on the hook. But if they reach the point where they start to lose subscribers, let alone deliver on the subscriber growth that it really needs to justify its equity valuation, it's a serious problem for the company. Because built into that equity valuation is a heck of a lot of subscriber growth. The content creation strategy works when they can borrow billions upon billions of dollars at ultra low interest rates and there is a market for the debt because people are forced to reach for yield. When, as you started to see now, yields rise or high-yield debt credit spreads start to blow out, and there is no longer a market for that debt, Netflix can't borrow that way. The catch-22 is if it raises subscription prices to try to cover some of their spending, and the higher fees cost them the subscriber growth they need.
     
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