NFL Week 17: All it takes is one big quarter, just ask Doug Williams

Simon_Cowbell · Dec 30, 2009

Flying Headbutt said:

outofplace said:

zagoshe said:

outofplace said:

There is a difference between having bad teams on the schedule and having teams sit their key players and hand over the game. I have always been uncomfortable with teams not trying to win every single game on the schedule.

If the Steelers and Jets both get in, I would still think it was a shitty way for things to go.
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But be honest with yourself - the Colts with their starters playing half a game and some of their key back-ups finishing the game are still at least as good, and probably better than the Browns.
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I never said differently. Doesn't mean that there isn't something troublesome with one team not putting in a full effort in a game that has an impact on the playoffs.
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Bullshit. The point isn't to win week to week, but to win the Super Bowl. If you win enough early on that you're assured of reaching the playoffs before the regular season ends, you're entitled to do what you feel you need to in order to prepare for the playoffs. You don't owe it to lesser teams to do things you aren't comfortable doing at the end of the season.

Personally I think the Colts are shooting themselves in the foot by going on cruise control this way. I figure they'd have learned their lessons about that. But they earned the right to prepare for the postseason the way they want to by, you know, winning and getting into the postseason.
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One team wins a Super Bowl every year. No one has gone 19-0.

And, no one hits Manning.

Dumb. Ass. Move.

Simon_Cowbell · Dec 30, 2009

All six of the Pro Bowl QBs are in the playoffs.

Decent chance four will have to drop out if they play in the conference championship game.

Flying Headbutt · Dec 30, 2009

Simon_Cowbell said:

Flying Headbutt said:

outofplace said:

zagoshe said:

outofplace said:

There is a difference between having bad teams on the schedule and having teams sit their key players and hand over the game. I have always been uncomfortable with teams not trying to win every single game on the schedule.

If the Steelers and Jets both get in, I would still think it was a shitty way for things to go.
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But be honest with yourself - the Colts with their starters playing half a game and some of their key back-ups finishing the game are still at least as good, and probably better than the Browns.
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I never said differently. Doesn't mean that there isn't something troublesome with one team not putting in a full effort in a game that has an impact on the playoffs.
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Bullshit. The point isn't to win week to week, but to win the Super Bowl. If you win enough early on that you're assured of reaching the playoffs before the regular season ends, you're entitled to do what you feel you need to in order to prepare for the playoffs. You don't owe it to lesser teams to do things you aren't comfortable doing at the end of the season.

Personally I think the Colts are shooting themselves in the foot by going on cruise control this way. I figure they'd have learned their lessons about that. But they earned the right to prepare for the postseason the way they want to by, you know, winning and getting into the postseason.
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One team wins a Super Bowl every year. No one has gone 19-0.

And, no one hits Manning.

Dumb. Ass. Move.
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No argument from me. I agree they went about it all wrong.

But the idea that they owe it to the integrity of the league or some such misguided nonsense to play everyone all the way through against bubble teams is ludicrous. The Colts are entitled to do as they see fit, however misguided I may think it is.

Batman · Dec 30, 2009

Bob Cook said:

Gray is smart to interview because if he comes off well, Bruce Allen might help set him up elsewhere even if he doesn't stay on the Redskins' staff. Or Allen puts a good word for him in with Shanahan. It's all about self-preservation at this point.
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Bingo.
Someone, I forget who (might have been Dennis Green), years ago credited those types of interviews with eventually leading to his first head coaching job. He said he'd go on interviews for HC jobs he knew he had no shot at just to get a feel for the process and what types of questions would be asked. By the time he was well-qualified for a HC job, he knew what to expect.

BYH · Dec 30, 2009

Batman said:

Bob Cook said:

Gray is smart to interview because if he comes off well, Bruce Allen might help set him up elsewhere even if he doesn't stay on the Redskins' staff. Or Allen puts a good word for him in with Shanahan. It's all about self-preservation at this point.
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Bingo.
Someone, I forget who (might have been Dennis Green), years ago credited those types of interviews with eventually leading to his first head coaching job. He said he'd go on interviews for HC jobs he knew he had no shot at just to get a feel for the process and what types of questions would be asked. By the time he was well-qualified for a HC job, he knew what to expect.
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Wait. Wait. Wait. Slow the fuck down.

Dennis Green was well-qualified for a HC job?

Batman · Dec 30, 2009

Hey, if Gary Andersen doesn't shank that field goal we might remember Dennis Green much, much differently. Even though he didn't win a championship he still had a great run in Minnesota.

YGBFKM · Dec 30, 2009

Dennis Green is who we thought he was: a mediocre coach.

The 2000 NFC championship game, IMO, was a bigger loss. Getting embarrased by a Kerry Collins-led team? Come on, man!

Flying Headbutt · Dec 30, 2009

Bruce Allen hasn't interviewed Jerry Gray. Vinny Cerrato has. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what Cerrato's reputation is around the league, and what a recommendation from him might mean?

BYH · Dec 30, 2009

Wait...I thought Cerrato was fired?

YGBFKM · Dec 30, 2009

Cerrato should work for the Bears. It would be a perfect fit. Shit, I hope the McCaskeys aren't on sj. Don't want to give them anymore terrible ideas.

I believe Cerrato was Peter Principled. They kept him around but moved him out of the way.

Flying Headbutt · Dec 30, 2009

BYH said:

Wait...I thought Cerrato was fired?
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He was.

BYH · Dec 30, 2009

Sometimes I think Danny Snyder watches The Office, and wonders why it's called a comedy.

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