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NFL off-season thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Splendid Splinter, Jan 11, 2021.

  1. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

    Benjamin Allbright is cash money with Broncos information
  2. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

  3. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    Indy is closer to being a complete football team than the Bears and several of the other options.
  4. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

    Does anyone really believe Wentz will stay healthy long enough for the Eagles to get that No.1 pick?
  5. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    ... where he played his home games in a dome. One of the few road games I can envision being a nasty-weather road game is South Dakota State. No dome in Brookings.

    I'd still like to know how Howie Roseman has a job. Blamed all the recent crap on Doug Pederson ... yet he didn't draft Jalen Hurts, watched the receiver situation go completely to pot and thought he was going to get a haul for Carson Wentz. Oh, and the Eagles take a $33.8 million dead-cap hit.
  6. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    He might. Colts have one of the better lines in the league. If Carson Wentz isn't as eager to look for contact as he was in Philly, there's a much better chance of his staying upright.

    Of course, if he doesn't, no arguments. For all the talk about wanting mobile, running quarterbacks, no one seems to understand that the wear and tear usually piles up quickly. Some bunch in Charlotte found out the hard way.
  7. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

    Five years ago nobody would have had Matthew Stafford above Cam Newton in a list of NFL’s best quarterbacks
    Both got beat up but Stafford weathered it much better
  8. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Wentz was playing well before he got hurt the first time, less well when he got hurt the second time. Last season, he didn't get hurt, he got benched for cause. THAT'S the problem with him, not the injury risk. Felger and Mazz spent today ripping Belichick for not going after Wentz. Well, Cam Newton was almost wholly ineffective in 2020. But if you look at the stats, he was one hell of a lot better than Wentz, who led the league in sacks, yards lost in sacks, and interceptions -- in less than 16 games.
  9. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    Sort of.

    Matthew Stafford wasn't asked to run the ball on designated plays nearly as much. Also, I wonder if Stafford was protected a little more by the officials than Newton (saw Newton take some brutal hits that would have been 15-yard penalties without question if other quarterbacks were involved ... he's fair game when he's running the ball, not so when he's in the pocket, etc.).

    "I wonder" is because I haven't seen Stafford with the frequency I did with Newton. No question that Stafford is a tough guy who has consistently played hurt and probably played injured more often than he should. But the guess here is that the Lions didn't treat Stafford like a crash test mannequin. Newton, because of his size, strength and such, was treated like he would never go down or wear out. The Carolina Panthers found out the hard way that no one is immune to being worn down by physical abuse. If GMs and other team executives are smart, they viewed what has happened to Newton as a cautionary tale.

    Did the Ravens pay attention? Will the Saints if they opt to promote Taysom Hill after Drew Brees retires? Stay Tuned.
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  10. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    Cam Newton hadn't a chance in hell in Foxborough last season, and exactly none of it is his fault. Bill Belichick hasn't done crap to upgrade at wide receiver or tight end. The moment Julian Edelman got injured again, just who was Newton supposed to use for an outlet? No sledgehammer back. No safety-valve tight end. No dependable wideouts after Edelman went down.

    Bill Belichick would be wise to offer Newton another season ... and get him a LOT more help in the process.
  11. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Right -- he was the most sacked quarterback in the league -- 50 times, and he didn't even play every game.

    Philip Rivers was sacked 19 times.

    Does some of that have to do with decision-making and being able to get rid of the ball quickly? Absolutely.

    Does a lot of it have to do with the blocking in front of them? Uh.... maybe a bit.

    Wentz was running for his life constsntly last season. Might have had something to do with his performance. Or perhaps not.

    That's what we'll find out next season.
  12. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Politically impossible with the fan base. Everything you say is correct, but Newton was also just not good. He really struggled to make easy touch throws to backs or midrange passes against zones. Quite unfairly, he must be sacrificed to the fact Brady won a Super Bowl with Tampa. Fans here overemphasized quarterbacks long before Belichick and Brady got here, and now it's a sickness. If Newton comes back, and I never put any move past Bill if he gets a notion, he will be the scapegoat of every loss, even if the score's 38-37 and he throws for 400.
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