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new york daily news: torre to be canned

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Herbert Anchovy, Oct 8, 2006.

  1. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    Confucius say: Reporters who hastily jump to conclusions frequently break ankles.
  2. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Exactly - this was win win for all concerned except The Mets and Joe Torre. Madden gets a story, Pinella name gets put in play, Yankees control back page, and Post gets follow up exclusive that Joe is staying.

    Lets see - When Mets win NLCS - watch for the A- Rod to Cubs Story to break.

    This was so predictable down to even who would write it.
  3. suburbanite

    suburbanite Active Member

    Bottom line is what probably happened is that Madden called George 5-10 mins. after Saturday's game ended and George said, 'I'm gonna fire that SOB. This time I mean it and you can print it.'

    And then, as often happens, cooler heads prevailed. So I understand where Madden was coming from, but it still doesn't look all that good for him. He probably should've taken it with the proverbial container of salt, knowing that George isn't quite what he used to be.
  4. shockey

    shockey Active Member

    actually, suburbanite, madden wrote it with a grain of salt. his tabloid editors just didn't do the same with their screaming, no wiggle-room headlines. :eek: :eek: :eek:
  5. suburbanite

    suburbanite Active Member

    Well, that's true. And then ESPN trumpeting it on their crawl didn't help.
  6. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    So, Madden can do this shill work for his pal Sweet Lou, and he gets a free pass, because
    of those twisted headline writers? Uh, uh.
  7. ballscribe

    ballscribe Active Member

    New York is a completely different animal where all this stuff is concerned. That's what makes newspapers in that city so much fun, in my opinion.

    All of the theoretical, holier-than-thou, this-is-how-journalists-should-be-doing-their-jobs-with-three-on-the-record-sources platitudes kind of have to be thrown out the window.

    Nice in theory, not in the ballpark in actual practice in that market, by far the most competitive and cutthroat in the nation.
  8. Claws for Concern

    Claws for Concern Active Member

    If Torre isn't being "canned" will the Daily News writer be canned?
  9. casty33

    casty33 Active Member

    Now that is terribly unfair to Madden. If any of us were given the same information he had, we would have written it, too, and with the same hedges Madden had. It was a story that day and, if you work for a NY tabloid, they love it.

    What happened after that won't be remembered next April.
  10. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    Understand all that . . . but given the Madden/Lou hip-connection, it's too cute for words.
  11. casty33

    casty33 Active Member

    And when Piniella takes another job (Cubs, Giants, Rangers???), this, too, will be forgotten.
  12. shockey

    shockey Active Member

    when all is said and done, this is the ULTIMATE n.y. tab story. boss speaks, news writes with tab heds, boss cools down, backs off, news offers half-assed "we were wrong but not really" stories.

    only in n.y., boys. oh, how i don't miss this crap! only in these tabs can you be wrong but spin it as not.

    again, the only way around stuff like this is to never use unattributed sources. use the info to lead in that direction, but don't even give the hedline terrorists the chance to embarrass you.
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