New top 25... Now that the Pac 10 agrees with me, anyone care to recant?

Re: New top 25.... Oklahoma moves ahead of Oregon in my poll...thanks for feedback

That's a good one.

 

Re: New top 25.... Oklahoma moves ahead of Oregon in my poll...thanks for feedback

Seems like, if say, Virginia Tech would get screwed out of five victories and finish 7-5, and you really liked them, it's on to the BCS final for them.

 

Re: New top 25.... Oklahoma moves ahead of Oregon in my poll...thanks for feedback

My new pet peeve is this failure to embrace facts/reality. I don't care if Oklahoma would have won, but the Enterprise came down and beamed Oregon's running back into the end zone for the victory. It's still a win.

 

Re: New top 25.... Oklahoma moves ahead of Oregon in my poll...thanks for feedback

And here wee are...

Week 4 AP Top 25
1. Ohio State (59) 3-0 1,617
2. Auburn (2) 3-0 1,507
3. USC (2) 2-0 1,494
4. West Virginia (2) 3-0 1,419
5. Florida 3-0 1,350
6. Michigan 3-0 1,297
7. Texas 2-1 1,180
8. Louisville 3-0 1,121
9. Georgia 3-0 1,105
10. LSU 2-1 1,085
11. Virginia Tech 3-0 931
12. Notre Dame 2-1 912
13. Oregon 3-0 833
14. Iowa 3-0 831
15. Tennessee 2-1 585
16. TCU 3-0 527
17. Oklahoma 2-1 510
18. Florida State 2-1 466
19. Clemson 2-1 399
20. Arizona State 3-0 384
20. Boston College 3-0 384
22. California 2-1 383
23. Nebraska 2-1 162
24. Penn State 2-1 143
25. Boise State 3-0 110
OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES
Alabama 94, Miami (FL) 78, Rutgers 46, UCLA 40, Michigan State 33, Wisconsin 29, Missouri 22, Georgia Tech 19, Texas Tech 16, Texas A&M 9, Arkansas 2, Purdue 2.
DROPPED FROM RANKINGS
Miami (FL) 17, Texas Tech 24.
Complete Rankings

Week 4 USA Today Poll
1. Ohio State (60) 3-0 1,572
2. USC (2) 2-0 1,493
3. Auburn (1) 3-0 1,432
4. West Virginia 3-0 1,359
5. Florida 3-0 1,282
6. Michigan 3-0 1,181
7. Georgia 3-0 1,178
8. Texas 2-1 1,144
9. Louisville 3-0 1,106
10. Virginia Tech 3-0 964
11. LSU 2-1 911
12. Oregon 3-0 829
13. Notre Dame 2-1 814
14. Iowa 3-0 781
15. TCU 3-0 621
16. Oklahoma 2-1 508
17. Florida State 2-1 459
18. Arizona State 3-0 397
19. Tennessee 2-1 376
20. California 2-1 366
21. Boston College 3-0 348
22. Alabama 3-0 314
23. Clemson 2-1 283
24. Nebraska 2-1 167
25. Boise State 3-0 139
OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES
Penn State 138, Miami (FL) 81, UCLA 60, Rutgers 43, Texas Tech 38, Michigan State 37, Georgia Tech 14, Wisconsin 9, Texas A&M 9, Missouri 7, Purdue 5, Maryland 3, Washington 3, Arkansas 2, UTEP 1, Southern Miss 1.
DROPPED FROM RANKINGS
Miami (FL) 15, Texas Tech 22.

 

Re: New top 25.... Oklahoma moves ahead of Oregon in my poll...thanks for feedback

The people who voted for Purdue and Washington should be identified and ridiculed.

 

Re: New top 25.... Oklahoma moves ahead of Oregon in my poll...thanks for feedba

Yeah, you can sure count on Oklahoma to win 9 of 10 against the team that outgained it by 130 yards and against whom it folded under pressure.

 

Re: New top 25.... Oklahoma moves ahead of Oregon in my poll...thanks for feedba

I'm not going to defend Oklahoma here, because right or wrong, it did lose. But I don't believe they folded under pressure. Call it momentum.

When two calls go against you like that, it's tough. In basketball, you always see one team or the other making a run. In football, it's not a run, it's momentum. And when the Ducks got the benefit of two calls on their home field, how could they not gain some momentum from that? At the same time, it had to zap Oklahoma's.

Take a pro game, like the Steelers-Colts playoff game. Steelers lead 21-10 when Polamalu picks off a pass, supposedly ending the game. Review reverses the call, the Colts suddenly play with renewed life, get the touchdown and two-point cobversion to climb within three points. And they damn near tied it, except that choke kicker who's gone now, but that's neither here or there.

Point is, calls do affect how the games are played, even in the NFL with grown men. So the same can hold true with young men in college.

Oklahoma didn't fold under pressure. Oklahoma just couldn't overcome a late tidal wave that was far out of their control.

 

Re: New top 25.... Oklahoma moves ahead of Oregon in my poll...thanks for feedba

The question with USC is how this Reggie Bush situation is going to turn out. I am not sure, maybe some one can inform me but if Reggie Bush is guilty of violation NCAA rules could it affect this season and maybe keep them out of the National Title game (assuming they can go undefeated the rest of the way)

 

Re: New top 25.... Oklahoma moves ahead of Oregon in my poll...thanks for feedback

Michigan? SOlid bet to go unbeaten?
Ahhh, you'd like to think so... yet, this is the kind of situation headed for a nasty fall -- against John LLLLL Smith

 

Re: New top 25.... Oklahoma moves ahead of Oregon in my poll...thanks for feedba

That was with the Colts already in scoring territory. This was with Oklahoma playing defense nowhere near its goal line, and then with a fairly simple field goal attempt to win. Methinks the onside kick issue was long out of the kicker's mind. Players are coached to do their job and not dwell on the refs, or at least should be. The Sooners exposed themselves as not being clutch performers. The only thing that took the game away from them was Oregon.

 

Re: New top 25.... Oklahoma moves ahead of Oregon in my poll...thanks for feedba

Actually, the Colts were at their own 44 when that reversal came ...

http://sports-att.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=260115011

... Four plays later, the Colts scored then got to the two-point conversion to come back within three points. I know momentum is a lame excuse when you're talking about football, but it can impact a team, even if it's on one player's mind for one play, it might be enough for this or that to happen.

Yes, credit Oregon for rallying to win. But the Sooners were put in a bad position when they didn't really have to be. And they lost.

 

Re: New top 25.... Oklahoma moves ahead of Oregon in my poll...thanks for feedba

I guarantee you that the only game Auburn and LSU score less than 20 points in this season came yesterday.

LSU's got one of the better QBs and probably the best group of receivers in the country. Auburn has a solid QB and possibly the best running back in the country. Not to mention that both of them have outstanding offensive lines. A 7-3 game between these two says a lot.

None of this poll shit matters right now anyway. Just good conversation. And with that in mind, you've got to move WVa down. They haven't played anybody. They're the only team around the top five who hasn't. That has to play against them. To me, Louisville and WVa should swap places. Miami might be 1-2, but it's a far cry from the absolute hacks WVa has played.