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New NYT Sports Columnist

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by lcjjdnh, Nov 3, 2015.

  1. lcjjdnh

    lcjjdnh Member

    Joe Nocera moving over from the Op-Ed page.

    NYT business columnist Joe Nocera joins the sports department | Poynter.

  2. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Nocera will take the important Times sports columnist role as resident scorn and moralist busybody. They've always had one for at least the last 30 years -- Selena Roberts, et. al.
  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Yep. The passing mention of "gambling" in the memo makes me think that this is the latest gambit in the NYT's weird war on DraftKings and FanDuel.
  4. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Gambling, football brain injuries, NFL corruption, high price of tickets, you name it. They always have many good writers, but there's always been that strain in the Times sports section that people should be ashamed of themselves for liking sports.
  5. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    I don't think it's weird for a news organization to set its sights on Draftkings and FanDuel. They're the two biggest players in the explosion of DFS and they're shady as fuck.
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I do think it's odd that they hummed along unnoticed for the last four or five years. Then they stepped up their advertising. And then everyone lost their collective shit.
  7. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    No, it was when that dude accidentally leaked the player ownership info and everyone realized they were cheating that everyone lost their collective shit.

    That incident just happened to coincide with the increase in advertising.
    I Should Coco and heyabbott like this.
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    And then an outside law firm independently investigated it, and said there wasn't anything shady about that.

    Regardless, the biggest component of criticism I see isn't that the sites are shady.

    It's that: People are gambling in this establishment!?

  9. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    What investigation was this? I haven't seen that.

    And regardless of that, the biggest component of criticism I see are states, casinos and other gambling entities trying to protect their own gambling interests, which, frankly, is not unfair. No reason DFS shouldn't be treated the same way as other forms of gambling.

    If you want to argue other forms of gambling should be expanded, I'm right there with you.

    However, DFS needs Better oversight. There are currently two types of regular DFS players: the winners who cheat and the losers who don't.

    And regardless of that, there's nothing weird about NYT staying on top of this.
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I'm with you on most of your post, but not this part. They outwork and outsmart people. That's not cheating.
  11. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Employees of one site using proprietary data to bet on another site is insider trading pure and simple. Cheating by definition.
    bigpern23 likes this.
  12. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    No they don't. They run lineup optimization software that allows them to play hundreds of games with enough variation to virtually guarantee victory and exploit those who do not use similar software. In addition, many are using inside information to gain an edge over other players.

    The one thing almost none of them are doing is studying harder and it's naive to think they are winning because they are smarter or work harder at it.
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