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New Josh Duggar revelations?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Jan 11, 2016.

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  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    As far as the "benefit of the doubt" goes...

    There's been all of this talk in regards to the Clinton sexual abuses allegations being brought up. The idea is that our social mores have changed. We look at issues of sexual harassment/assault differently than we did in the '90's.

    But, is that true? Did we not care about sexual allegations of sexual assault back then? Was there a "one free grope" rule in place?

    Jonah Goldberg makes the case that there wasn't:

    Where was I? Oh right, it was the late 1980s and early 1990s, the golden age of the mullet, the hairstyle that’s business in the front and a party in the back — which, oddly, is how they described various private jets Bill Clinton has flown on. After John Tower there was Bob Packwood, a name so perfect for a sex scandal even porn moguls would say, “That’s a bit too on the nose, don’t you think?” Packwood, a liberal Republican who had a good relationship with feminists, was thrown to the wolves. Investigators rummaged through his diary and he was hounded from public life.

    Then there was the fight over Clarence Thomas, who was alleged to have made a joke about a pubic hair on a Coke can and asked a colleague out for a date. And this was enough to make his accuser into feminist martyr. It’s difficult to exaggerate the feminist feeding frenzy those hearings created in the media. Carol Mosley Braun and Patty Murray ran for the senate in protest of the hearings, giving rise to the Year of the Woman. It was zero tolerance, not just for rape, but for even the slightest verbal misstep.
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    And when the time came for feminists and the media to choose between sticking to the zero-tolerance principle they worked so hard to establish and throwing a Democratic president under the bus, they chose to hold a fire sale on their principles. Gloria Steinem, feminist matriarch, raced to the op-ed page of the New York Times to declare a “one free grope rule” for lechers. “There is nothing inherently wrong . . .” wrote Katie Roiphie, also in the Times, “with [Monica Lewinsky’s] attempt to translate her personal relationship with the President into professional advancement.” Clinton’s baron-and-the-milkmaid act with an intern, declared feminist author Jane Smiley, was simply an admirable “desire to make a connection with another person.”

    Of course, in practice the one-free-grope rule became unlimited free-gropes. Every time a new allegation surfaced, the grope-quota would be expanded. Time magazine’s Nina Burleigh even admitted she’d have happily serviced him, just for keeping abortion legal. Because, feminism!


    How Bill Quickly Went from Asset to Liability for Hillary’s Campaign, by Jonah Goldberg, National Review

    Sexual assault just isn't as important to feminists as bigger issues like keeping abortion legal, and making sure we elect a Dem President who will appoint pro-choice judges to the judiciary, especially the SCOTUS.

    And, now, when you look at what's happening in Germany, and Scandinavia, you will see that sexual assault isn't as important to liberals as multiculturalism, immigration, and the destruction of traditional Western values.

    The would rather cover up the sexual assault of women than expose immigrant Muslims as rapists.

    It's not about women's rights for Hillary, or for most liberals. It's about power. It's about changing the world.

    If protecting women't rights will help them achieve their goals, they'll be for protecting women's rights. If they get in the way of the plan...
     
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  2. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Eh, I'll save my outrage for the party that threatened to prosecute an alleged rape victim for perjury.
     
  3. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    See, this is what I don't get about you and Tony and others. Why does your outrage have to be directed toward a political party. Shouldn't we all be outraged by terrible people no matter their political affiliation. Instead it's don't come talking to me about Bama's thieves and rapists when Auburn's got more than we do, Paawwwl!
     
  4. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    Here! Here! A voice of REASON! Absolutely. Your principles should be what rules the day. You know, there was a VP named Gore who could have taken over had they run Billy out of town. But no, let's throw away our principles and stick up for a hick and the ruling power structure. Gore would have won in 2000 had he stepped up in 1998 and said, look, I am the VP, I am going to run in 2000, and I am not going to buy what this guy is saying and stick up for him. I'll let the investigation take its course.

    And history would be different. And global warming would have been solved by now. This is all the fault of Hillary's and Bill's dick.
     
  5. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    The difference is that one person is allegedly terrible with their behavior, but has done little besides endorse one candidate. The other terrible person led an organization, with the endorsement of one political party, who not only was trying to tell others who they could and could not marry, but also sought to lecture others about the shortcomings of their values.

    To use your analogy, it's Auburn complaining about Alabama's thieves and rapists, while not only having their own, but also lecturing the other schools about how they're better at obeying NCAA rules than you are.
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  6. JohnHammond

    JohnHammond Well-Known Member

    Hillary supporters should ask themselves if they would be cool if Bill Clinton fooled around with their wife or daughter, or Lena Dunham molested their kid.
     
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  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    The problem isn't that she endorsed Hillary Clinton. Don't misstate it. The problem is that Hillary Clinton has made her a centerpiece of her Iowa and New Hampshire campaigns. An unapologetic child molester.
     
  8. JohnHammond

    JohnHammond Well-Known Member

    The use of allegedly in respect to Dunham doesn't apply. She admitted it. Only an idiot and/or monster would think she isn't a molester.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    This deciding not to vote thing has really unleashed Dick.
     
  10. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Part of which she did when she was 7 years old.

    Her being 17 for the other alleged incidents ain't kosher, but I'm not going to suddenly change my vote because someone I'd never have heard of besides this site supposedly did something to her sister a decade ago when she was a teenager. Not when the alternative is voting for a candidate whose party killed thousands of people with their lies, tried to overturn the will of the American voter and one that wants to make medical decisions for Americans.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Was she 7 when she mined it for edgy comedy gold?
     
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