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NBA Labor Pains

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by 21, Oct 10, 2011.

  1. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    This strike is all about the owners taking back the asylum from the inmates.

    James/ Wade caught the owners flatfooted and hijacked the league and the owners resent it.
     
  2. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    The black man scares you doesn't it Hondo?
     
  3. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    It is not a strike.
     
  4. NickMordo

    NickMordo Active Member

    To paraphrase a Daniel Tosh tweet, "Nobody cares about you NBA. It's probably in your best interest to start in January anyway because of football."
     
  5. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Sorry - mean "Lock-Out"
     
  6. CarltonBanks

    CarltonBanks New Member

    1,000,000x this. This is also why almost everyone is on the owners' side. LeBron and Wade's selfishness is going to cost the players a TON of money...and I hope the other players hold it against them.
     
  7. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Jeez, I thought the posters herein would not fall for Stern's red herrings.

    If it was about the James/Wade "conspiracy" the owners would be talking about a longer wait for free agency and a more meaningful Bird Exception to keep players with the team that chose them. You don't hear any of this because its not the major issue.

    The major issue is that the owners want overall cost certainty; even though they already control the costs. Its simple, they want to be like the old regulated monopolies; prices were set but they were guaranteed profits, even if they were deliberately inefficient. They could go to the govt. and say here are our costs, now give us the markup and we'll pass that along to the consumers. Easy math.

    Here, the owners are saying we want a hard cap because we cannot help us. Even when we tell each other, the salary cap is $XM, we cannot help ourselves we overspend and that cuts into our potential profits, in fact some of our less intelligent franchises actually go into (alleged) deficit spending to try to win the championship. We cannot have that. We want what the NFL has, no guaranteed contracts, cost certainty every year even if we are the stupidest people in the world.
     
  8. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    Boycotting braindead irrelevencies is always a good place to start in terms of enforcing mental discipline and fiscal responsibility . . .
    and lopping off the opening three-eighths of the NBA's regular season has long seemed a superior choice in this area.
     
  9. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    Exactly.

    The owners spend too much money on long term deals and are asking the players to save the owners from themselves. You can't blame the players for taking the money offered, just like you couldn't blame the rookies pre-rookie cap years from taking the massive contracts.

    Shorter deals (4 years top) in conjunction with a firmer cap is the biggest thing. And allowing limited Bird rights which can't be used in connection with a sign-and-trade is also a good idea for roster stability.

    The NBA has been great recently, but it really is hard to live and die by every game when all of the best players make the playoffs.
     
  10. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    The major issue is that the owners know the players are the biggest bunch of fuckwits with their money that has ever existed in the world. They will miss a month of paychecks and they will be knuckling under to anything they want because they haven't saved one red cent. I hate to sound too much like Starman here, but as difficult as it is for most of understand -- because we could all live a long and happy life on one month's worth of Antoine Walker's paychecks -- the owners are going to win everything they want because the players have absolutely no common sense. And the owners know this because they're the ones issuing the payday loans to players making eight-figure salaries.
     
  11. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    The average NBA owner is a fat 62-year-old with a personal net worth of $4.4 billion (according to figures from authoritative Outamyass.Com -- about as credible as Forbes).

    If they shut down the NBA completely for a year and each franchise loses 1/3 of its market value, the average owner will be a fat 63-year-old with a personal net worth of $4.25 billion.

    The average NBA player is a 28-year-old who makes $4.4 million a year but has personal savings of $0 and annual outgo of $5.4 million.

    If they shut down the NBA completely for a year, the average player will be a 29-year-old who hasn't played high-level basketball in a year and is $1 million in debt to creditors with no income guaranteed going forward.

    His options will be to take whatever deal the owners give him, or go work at Mickey D's and see how fast he can start knocking off that $1 million debt.


    Owners win.
     
  12. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    bitch, I will cut you
     
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